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re: aTm / Mizzou fans - Explain to us the tangible benefits of the AAU
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:27 pm to Shaka Zulu
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:27 pm to Shaka Zulu
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What I do realize Dr RC, is that had you been alive during the Middle Ages, you would have been a proponent of applying leaches to the body as a remedy for illness.
I'm really glad you brought up infrastructure. They are doing wonders with it all over Asia.. The link is mostly pictures, so have at it. Do you think that was money well spent, RC?
ok, so b/c you really have no good way to keep shitting on something you clearly did not and seemingly do not wish to fully comprehend you are just bringing red herrings that have absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:47 pm to Dr RC
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just bringing red herrings that have absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about.
We're 3 pages deep into this thread and not one AAU-loving fool has listed one product or technological breakthrough from research at an AAU school. Not one. It confirms that for most of the people who have been touting the AAU designation, it's just status symbol that lacks substance. Moreover, to the alleged point the AAU brings more research dollars, why don't you explain why Mizzou, with it's vaunted AAU membership, currently receives less funding than half of the current SEC members?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:58 pm to Shaka Zulu
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We're 3 pages deep into this thread and not one AAU-loving fool has listed one product or technological breakthrough from research at an AAU school
Ok, here's the obvious answer:
AAU institution--Florida. Product--Gatorade.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:27 pm to Quidam65
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Ok, here's the obvious answer:
AAU institution--Florida. Product--Gatorade.
Gatorade was created in the 1960's, two decades before Florida was admitted into the AAU. But good try and a shout out to re-packaged glorified pickle juice. Any other guesses?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:48 pm to Shaka Zulu
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:12 pm to Shaka Zulu
OK does this help? Here's a few things that have come from MU's researchers. But most all of the research projects could have possibly led to something tangible.
1966: MU completes construction on its world-class Research Reactor Center, which focuses on nuclear medicine research, including medical diagnostic tools and radiopharmaceuticals
1970:MU scientist John C. Schuder develops the fist automatic and completely implanted defibrillator for the human heart.
1983:MU pediatric cardiologist Zuhdi Lababidi performs the world's first pediatric angioplasty, which corrects aortic valve stenosis in newborns.
1999:MU chemists Jerry Atwood, Leonard Barbour and William Orr publish research that paves the way for better electronic devices and “smart” drugs, which deliver treatment to cells that need it.
Speaking of Pork Barrel. 2002: MU's Randall Prather along with Immerge BioTherapeutics, clones the first miniature swine with a specific gene that causes human rejection “knocked out” of their DNA. The feat takes scientists a step closer to the possibility of pig-to-human organ transplantation
1966: MU completes construction on its world-class Research Reactor Center, which focuses on nuclear medicine research, including medical diagnostic tools and radiopharmaceuticals
1970:MU scientist John C. Schuder develops the fist automatic and completely implanted defibrillator for the human heart.
1983:MU pediatric cardiologist Zuhdi Lababidi performs the world's first pediatric angioplasty, which corrects aortic valve stenosis in newborns.
1999:MU chemists Jerry Atwood, Leonard Barbour and William Orr publish research that paves the way for better electronic devices and “smart” drugs, which deliver treatment to cells that need it.
Speaking of Pork Barrel. 2002: MU's Randall Prather along with Immerge BioTherapeutics, clones the first miniature swine with a specific gene that causes human rejection “knocked out” of their DNA. The feat takes scientists a step closer to the possibility of pig-to-human organ transplantation
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:13 pm to sfury
UT has the "Body Farm" with no AAU status. But dead people don't charge much.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:21 pm to DoUrden
WVU is studying Chris Benoit's brain. That has to be an AQ for AAU status.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:24 pm to LightsOut10
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Chris Benoit's brain
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:24 pm to kilo
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Read.
LINK
I nominate
quote:for laziest poster of the decade.
kilo
quote:, are you a Mizzou faculty member?
kilo
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:39 pm to Shaka Zulu
You act like there is some list of breakthroughs sorted by AAU University posted somewhere. To find a lot of the specific things accomplished you would either have to dig through each university website, run a patent search by university, or do a literature search for scientific articles published by university. As I mentioned before, I don't have time to do this for you.
Off the top of my head:
1. Texas A&M completed the first conversion of a nuclear research reactor from using highly enriched uranium fuel (70%) to utilizing low-enriched uranium (20%).
2. University of Minnesota successfully stripped a heart of cells and reconstructed it using stem cells, briefly getting it to pump. This was a major breakthrough for the field of tissue engineering.
3. University of Wisconsin was the first to reprogram adult skin cells into induced pluripotent stem cells, providing a non-embryonic source of stem cells. This is widely considered a major advancement for stem cell research.
Now, stop being a stubborn ahole.
Off the top of my head:
1. Texas A&M completed the first conversion of a nuclear research reactor from using highly enriched uranium fuel (70%) to utilizing low-enriched uranium (20%).
2. University of Minnesota successfully stripped a heart of cells and reconstructed it using stem cells, briefly getting it to pump. This was a major breakthrough for the field of tissue engineering.
3. University of Wisconsin was the first to reprogram adult skin cells into induced pluripotent stem cells, providing a non-embryonic source of stem cells. This is widely considered a major advancement for stem cell research.
Now, stop being a stubborn ahole.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:06 am to StrickAggie06
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StrickAggie06
Just face up to the facts. aTm gets the money it does because it's become a backyard playground for the Bushies. Congrats on landing the Dubya presidential library. It may finally put College Station's funding on a par with LBJ's UTA.
ETA: Congrats, StrickAggie, you caught me confused between the Bushies. aTm definitely got the better library, right?
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 7:39 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:19 am to Shaka Zulu
Your complete lack of anything close to resembling knowledge on this subject astounds me. We didn't get the George W. Bush Presidential Library, SMU did. We have the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library, and have had it since it was dedicated in 1997.
Nice try of deflecting from my post though. Feel free to admit you were wrong as soon as you man-up enough to do so.
Nice try of deflecting from my post though. Feel free to admit you were wrong as soon as you man-up enough to do so.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:35 am to StrickAggie06
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We're 3 pages deep into this thread and not one AAU-loving fool has listed one product or technological breakthrough from research at an AAU school
Actually, about 5 have, including me. Still no comment about the cloning breakthroughs through A&M's VetMed program...or the programs that Strick mentioned?
I'm sure if it was a new genetically engineered corndog guaranteed to make you lose weight, you'd be all over it though.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:49 am to Shaka Zulu
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quote:
Read.
LINK
I nominate
quote:
kilo
for laziest poster of the decade.
quote:
kilo
, are you a Mizzou faculty member?
The irony is unbearable.
That site holds the many answers you seek.
Instead of insisting everyone "explain" things to you, I thought you might like to do a little research of your own. I guess you do not and I stand corrected.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:53 am to kilo
Kilo,
Unless our AAU schools can perfect the corndog, he won't be happy.
Unless our AAU schools can perfect the corndog, he won't be happy.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:01 am to CGSC Lobotomy
CGSC,
Well, A&M already genetically engineered the maroon carrot, so I feel confident we could pull off a maroon corndog.
Well, A&M already genetically engineered the maroon carrot, so I feel confident we could pull off a maroon corndog.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:06 am to StrickAggie06
What about the corndog with the meat on the outside?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 7:30 am to kilo
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The irony is unbearable.
That site holds the many answers you seek.
We've had aTm and Mizzou posters throwing around the AAU label and expecting us to accept it at face value. Just because you know where the dictionary is on the shelf doesn't mean you know the words inside, so you don't get points for the link. I was very successful in exposing that most who used the label had no idea what research was going on and no one ever took the time to explain why Mizzou, with it's vaunted AAU membership, receives less USG funding than half of the current SEC member schools.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 4:12 pm to Shaka Zulu
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I was very successful in exposing that most who used the label had no idea what research was going on
You clearly lack reading comprehension. Some posters listed research areas as opposed to specific research, because the only people who could tell you specific research being conducted at a particular school off of the top of their head are graduate students and professors at that school. I've already explained this twice, but you continue to be incapable of comprehending it.
The only thing you were "very successful" in was showing your unfathomable ignorance on anything related to research or academia in general.
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no one ever took the time to explain why Mizzou, with it's vaunted AAU membership, receives less USG funding than half of the current SEC member schools.
That's because this is a very difficult question to answer. For one, new schools aren't added to the AAU very often, so it's possible that a school like Georgia could emphasize research and get more money than a current AAU school. There are a few current SEC schools that are close to AAU membership, which is one reason why TAMU and Mizzou were added: to help those schools gain acceptance.
Beyond that, the majority of research money is based on individual faculty efforts in writing grants; AAU affiliation doesn't guarantee funding, it simply increases the chances of faculty at those schools in getting funded. In addition, AAU affiliation increases cooperation between schools to land large grants by pooling together resources in multi-institution collaborations.
Also, levels of research funding directed to Tier1 universities will vary state-to-state. It's very possible that Georgia may receive significantly more money from their state than Mizzou. Likewise, not all research money comes from the govt, and the SEC schools may have more collaborations with industry than Mizzou. Larger institutions will have a larger faculty, and thus have more labs needing funding. Comparing Mizzou vs SEC in terms of enrollment and research-based faculty could shed some light on this. It's very possible that Mizzou brings in more research money per research faculty member than those SEC schools.
It's impossible to say for sure without seeing all the specific numbers and sources for research dollars at each institution, so that's why no one has answered your question. Feel free to do this research on your own, as I highly doubt any of us want to spend the large amount of time required to fully answer this question.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 4:14 pm
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