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re: Wouldnt LSU be in the best position to hire a new coach if Miles left

Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 7:59 am to
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Jimbo? Sure FSU is undefeated...but LSU fans would be at his throat over his inability to blow out teams....in the weaker ACC. He'll struggle like Muschamp


L O L
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:04 am to
Depends on how long the damn thing would play out.
Posted by JakeTheTiger
Biloxi, MS
Member since Jul 2005
3152 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:07 am to
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LSU is a top 10 college job, facilities, recruiting base and budget.
if you disagree please enlighten us with the jobs you view as better.

In no order,
Alabama, LSU, Florida, Florida St, Texas, USC, Slowhio, Notre Dame,

Sure I have left one or two out, but think those are the top with Oklahoma, Michigan, Oregon, Miami types right behind.


I agree with that list of premier programs. But, just because you have a premier program doesn't guarantee you can go hire any coach you want; or, that a coach with prior success will do well at one of those programs. When Notre Dame hired Brian Kelly, I was fairly certain that he was going to restore that football team to a superpower. After playing for a national championship in 2012, the Fighting Irish finished at 7-5 this year. Look at Rich Rod. He was one upset away from playing for a national championship at West Virginia. He then goes to Michigan and gets run out in three years. He landed at Arizona and he is playing for a conference title in his third year.

I don't know that there is a "best position" to hire a new coach unless a Nick Saban or Urban Myer tells a school he wants to coach there and would accept an offer if extended. Otherwise, hiring just about any other coach seems to me like a gamble.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14443 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:09 am to
Id think LSU offering 5 to 6 million would open up alot of options. Either way i'm good with his decision. Does Michigan have to pay LSU if they take the coach? is their a buyout?
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 8:15 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:20 am to
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In no order,
Alabama, LSU, Florida, Florida St, Texas, USC, Slowhio, Notre Dame,

Sure I have left one or two out, but think those are the top with Oklahoma, Michigan, Oregon, Miami types right behind.


Michigan and Oklahoma are behind LSU?
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:36 am to
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Michigan and Oklahoma are behind LSU?


Absolutely yes. Look at where they have to recruit. The ONLY thing those two have on LSU is historical prominence, and kids don't care about that shite.
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2654 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:37 am to
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Michigan and Oklahoma are behind LSU?

In 2014 Michigan and OU are better programs? You can't be serious.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:41 am to
I don't want Miles fired, but i think we could get a good coach to replace him for sure.

The good thing about LSU is that its the only big name school in a state ripe for recruiting. That's a big bonus. Florida is great but it has FSU and Miami to contend with for all instate recruits.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12400 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:47 am to
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Yep. IMO we have one of the best jobs in the land here, I dont know why we wouldnt grab a big time Head Coach, especially with all the talent we are sitting on.


I agree, which is why I'm confused as to why LSU fans keep bringing up stupid scenarios where you give the head coaching gig to Cam Cameron, Frank Wilson or Chavis. Really? You have one of the better jobs in the country in the middle of a fertile recruiting footprint and you're going to simply promote a coordinator or position coach? That's small time nonsense.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:58 am to
I'd take Al Golden from Miami.


But I don't want Les to leave.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11286 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:02 am to
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Id think LSU offering 5 to 6 million would open up alot of options.


Dude. Really? You think that is what would happen? No.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25094 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:03 am to
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USC


Sark was very well thought of.

quote:

Texas


Charlie Strong is extremely well thought of.

Louisville hired Petrino back.

Washington hired Petersen when no one thought it could be done.

I'm not sure who you think can be hired if you thought at the time of the hires that Muschamp, Sark, and Strong were underwhelming. That basically leaves Saban.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8305 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:24 am to
Promote Frank Wilson and leave Cam and the "Chief" in place and keep moving forward.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19053 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:25 am to
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Yep. IMO we have one of the best jobs in the land here, I dont know why we wouldnt grab a big time Head Coach, especially with all the talent we are sitting on.


Because the stupid fan base does not believe that 10+ wins/yr is enough to keep your job...
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8305 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:35 am to
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I'd take Al Golden from Miami.


No way I want him.
Posted by Royal Tiger Fan
Cali
Member since Dec 2008
1162 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:32 am to
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I agree, which is why I'm confused as to why LSU fans keep bringing up stupid scenarios where you give the head coaching gig to Cam Cameron, Frank Wilson or Chavis.


I was one of those ppl...I'm definitely not stupid but you looking at things through purple lens.

I, like you, would want the best coach to come in and run the program. When Saban left we got Les Miles. Now although Les turned out to be great I guarantee you if this board would have been open back then no one would be screaming his name...and the alternative for all we know (and Saban's suggestion) was Houston Nutt. Yes, Houston Nutt. None of the superstar coaches in other jobs they are successful in came beating down LSU door then and they wont now when you are dealing with the gauntlet that is the SEC West. LSU has the same attributes now they did back then: competitive facilities within that playing era and strong recruiting grounds.

Each school needs different coaches. What works at UF may not work at LSU. And vice versa. Dynamics are different. And I think Frank Wilson would work...

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34242 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:36 am to
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I can guarantee that no matter who we might hire now or 4-5 years down the road, fans will bitch. Because that guy still won't be Nick Saban.


That's a quality post right there
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:40 am to
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Promote Frank Wilson and leave Cam and the "Chief" in place and keep moving forward.



I love you guys
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:51 am to
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Florida, Texas, UM, USC......They're just as good and could be argued as better programs than LSU (actually, Texas and USC are probably better programs) and they came away with underwhelming hires.



UF is way, way better as well, and I think LSU is a great job.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3000 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:55 am to
I disagree. Michigan waiting so long to fire the current coach might put LSU in the same position we were in when Nick left. You'll recall the two best available coaches out there, Meyer and Spurrier, were already taken. This year several elite programs have already been looking for a new coach for weeks. I fear there will be slim pickens if this drags out too long.
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