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re: Why would a proven coach at a power 5 conference leave for LSU?

Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:14 am to
Ohhh.. we are referring to LSU as a business, not their football team. LSU is going to have to get into the 6 million range for a guy like Fisher. Then they have to hope FSU doesn't want to match.

Honestly answer this question.

Which school has an easier path to the national championship, FSU or LSU?

This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 11:16 am
Posted by Jonburris81
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
107 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:23 am to
LSU out earns FSU in football as well. Where are you getting your information from? Do some research. LSU pays its assistants more as well. No doubt FSU is a great job but LSU is a very good job.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21992 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:24 am to
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Meh, all major conference programs can pay the money now. Hell LSU broke the mold in 99 when it gave Saban 1.2 million.
how many schools are paying $5+ million a year to a coach?
Posted by TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
1088 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Which school has an easier path to the national championship, FSU or LSU?



I think it's refreshing when a Clemson fan admits that they play in a shity conference.
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:27 am to
I never said LSU was a bad job. Clemson doesn't have near the revenue that some schools have but they are in the top 5 with coaches salaries.

I think the playoff has made a lot of other schools good spots now. I think this makes it hard to get proven head coaches at major schools to leave.

Who was the last big name coach hired into the SEC? I'd say Brent, and it has worked out worse for him. He would have been better off staying at Wisconsin.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8066 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:29 am to
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And I know, I know, no one would want Dabo. Why would someone want a guy that turned a historically overrated program into a top 10 football team?

Dabo is a damned good coach, but I think most of us recognize he's a 'Bama boy.
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3782 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:30 am to
Herman just oozes intensity and confidence. You think that dude doesn't want to see how he stacks up against the very best?
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:31 am to
Who is selling the ACC has a top conference? The top three of the ACC this year can compete with the top three of most leagues. The middle and bottom of the ACC is horrible, but who cares. This is like Arkansas bragging about being the best 7-5 team.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5355 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:31 am to
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Which school has an easier path to the national championship, FSU or LSU?


Not everyone takes the easiest path to success. Some people, especially college head coaches, relish in a challenge.

Answer this...do you honestly believe Saban would have choosen FSU or Clemson over Bama because it was an easier path? No way! These guys have huge egos.
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:33 am to
I said Herman is the coach to get. I think he ends up at LSU, unless Texas or Texas AM fire their guys.
Posted by haramba3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
855 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:35 am to
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You don't want your conference to be talented from top to bottom. Clemson had no problem making the playoff having to beat only Florida State and Notre Dame.


Sorry, but in the SEC, we take pride in being able to beat good teams and wish for the entire conference to be good.
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:37 am to
So in the SEC you take pride in Bama beating teams. And how has Bama beating teams worked out for LSU over the past few years? I would bet most LSU fans would love for Bama to be a 6-6 team.
Posted by TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
1088 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:40 am to
When Bama's program was in the dumps it wasn't the same rivalry it is today, so I disagree.
Posted by Benedict_ARNY
Member since Sep 2016
65 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:43 am to
So you're admitting you'd rather lose to a great Bama team than beat a bad Bama team?

And obviously you'd want to beat a great Bama team, i'm not arguing that.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30004 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:43 am to
Sumlin is 4-0 and in the top 10. Already 2-0 in conference.

They could very well win the west. He's not getting fired this year unless they lose out
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5355 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:47 am to
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I would bet most LSU fans would love for Bama to be a 6-6 team.


Really? So you would rather play a bunch of 6-6 teams each year? Doesn't sound fun or like a challenge. Is this the ACC fan mentality? We actually like Bama being a powerhouse. It makes beating them that much more fun. And yes, we know they've owned us recently. That will make it that much more fun when we reel off 5 straight against them.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 11:49 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:49 am to
Why does a top notch coach want to limit himself to a lesser conference? just because it is easier. Its the whole reason the NFL is the be all/end all for coaches. They want to prove they are the best.

Besides, there is a much better chance an 1 loss ACC champ gets left out of the playoff vs. a 1 loss SEC champ.

The committee knows the SEC is the toughest conf and takes that into consideration.

And no, FSU is not at the same level as LSU. Money, facilities, Stadium, recruiting (for the most part) is all bigger at LSU.

Clemson fans are the most delusional i've seen.
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:51 am to
Is Tom Herman considered proven? One full year as a head coach.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39452 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:52 am to
He's 65. He can't coach forever.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
1088 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:57 am to
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So you're admitting you'd rather lose to a great Bama team than beat a bad Bama team?



You're putting words in my mouth - no sane fan wants to lose games if given the option. The allure of playing in the SEC is that you are playing (or coaching) against the nation's top talent in college football's best conference (the revenue generated doesn't hurt either). Beating a team that you are supposed to beat isn't as sweet as beating a team that is in the dumps. This being said, I want Bama to maintain their competitiveness, just as I want every other school in the SEC to build or maintain their programs to be competitive inside and outside of the conference.

This answers your original question - a proven coach in the ACC, Big 12, etc wants to prove that they can win at the highest level, and quite frankly - winning the ACC and a non-conference game every year isn't the highest level unless you parlay that into a NC.
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