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re: What is Nebraska thinking?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:30 pm to WalkingTurtles
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:30 pm to WalkingTurtles
I think Riley is ok. The Bama turn down thing was a little more complicated than just saying no. In early 2000 when the probation rumors started flying and DuBose was running the team into the ground a change was made. In 2001 we brought in Fran. When the penalties were handed down in early 02 (24 schollies I think and a year of no bowl) Fran decided to bolt after the season. The loss of schollies absolutely cripples you. Now, recruiting suffers two fold, the THREAT scares of potential recruits befoer the sanctions are announced(classes of 2000 and 2001 we signed nobody) and then the penalties themselves which affected recruiting classes of 2002, 03 and 04. Those guys would be the teams of 04,05,06 and 07. When Fran bolted Butch Davis was pretty much lined up. He had one question. How bad will the sanctions be. This was not the NCAA we see today, this was the NCAA of David Swank who would throw you down for just a thought you cheated. Now they want proof. Had Cam happened in 2001 he would have never played another down with Swank as Chair. Anyway, We waited and Butch did too. When Butch heard how bad they were in early 02 he said no thanks. I would have to, to be honest. We asked everyone and NOBODY wanted the job. Nobody would sign either. We lost a couple guys to Jax State if you can believe that. Riley knew it was a no-win due to the schollie reductions and rest assured, he was not candidate number one but we had no choices. We finally had to take somebody like Shula, honestly, knowing he would only last until probation was over and our full allotment was back. We had many more to choose from in 2007 because in 2008 we would be back to 85 players with no threat or sanctions and we could once again compete in the SEC. Shula wasn't as bad as he looked. Nobody, not Saban, Bryant or Rockne could have coached that team much past .500 from 2000 to 2007. Hell, SC hasn't recovered from the sanctions they received in 2010 yet... but they will.
Fast forward to today and if the Alabama job came open, Mike Riley wouldn't get a passing thought because we"re not in a no-win anymore but I don't blame him, Butch Davis or anybody else that turned us down during that time.
He can get more done at NU but it is interesting to say the least.
Fast forward to today and if the Alabama job came open, Mike Riley wouldn't get a passing thought because we"re not in a no-win anymore but I don't blame him, Butch Davis or anybody else that turned us down during that time.
He can get more done at NU but it is interesting to say the least.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:31 pm to BeeFense5
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Sounds like an LSU fan is running their Athletic Department
it does. I think the admin just had enough of his shite and pulled the trigger. kinda like when ohio state fired bruce earl (or earl bruce; can't remember). he never won less than 10 games; one year he won nine and they jumped on it. he was much disliked by the university. I can see axing pellini but their hire is a mystery.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:32 pm to WalkingTurtles
Pretty blah hire. Reminds me when Dave odom left wake for South Carolina in basketball.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:33 pm to koLSU86
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It's basically the same situation with Miles at this poin
of course miles won 13 games just 2 years ago. this is definitely NOT basically the same situation imo. miles record is much better and in a much harder division and conference.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:35 pm to TheCheshireHog
thank god they didnt say we tried to get fat boy bret i remember hogs touting how bobby p turned us down last go round
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:42 pm to BeeFense5
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Sounds like an LSU fan is running their Athletic Department.
Lsu and Nebraska are in different stratospheres. Lsu has a much better recruiting base. Being average at Nebraska these days is understandable. Being mediocre at lsu is inexcusable along with poor clock management, QB development, and lack of adjustments. Basically, being a bafoon at lsu is inexcusable and unfortunately is the case at lsu since 2005. Go to Michigan Less!
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:07 pm to LSU GrandDad
I think the AD just covered his eyes and scrolled his finger down a list of all current head coaches, landed on Riley and said, "Mike Riley? Sounds good"
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:19 pm to WalkingTurtles
I don't think I'd want Mike Riley as my LSU coach, but after witnessing Brandin Cooks relatively easy transition to the Saints, I can say Mike Riley prepares his players for the NFL's West Coast system.
Definitely the same concepts, and some of the same verbiage Sean Payton uses. It could've been intriguing to see what he could do with Louisiana talent.
However, I'm not sure about his recruiting, Gameday playcalling, or defenses. That's now Nebraska's job to find out.
Definitely the same concepts, and some of the same verbiage Sean Payton uses. It could've been intriguing to see what he could do with Louisiana talent.
However, I'm not sure about his recruiting, Gameday playcalling, or defenses. That's now Nebraska's job to find out.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:24 pm to WalkingTurtles
Oregon State is a really tough place to win
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:29 pm to WalkingTurtles
Riley was the third choice. Better question is what is Mike Riley thinking?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:40 pm to ffhouston
Nebraska needs to hire someone with a lot of recruiting charisma and success. I don't see how Mike Riley is going to give them that.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:46 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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I think the AD just covered his eyes and scrolled his finger down a list of all current head coaches, landed on Riley and said, "Mike Riley? Sounds good"
They were never gonna get Jim Tressel. He would have only further divided the fan base after Bo made it bad enough with his terrible attitude and demeanor.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:49 pm to WalkingTurtles
Agree, they are trying to become the poster child for what happens when you fire coaches for going 9-3 . Good coaches will not take that job because they know those 8-4 , 9-3 seasons happen to the best.
I predict they continue to be middle of the pack for the next 5-7 years until this guy gets fired.
I predict they continue to be middle of the pack for the next 5-7 years until this guy gets fired.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:15 pm to TexTiga
They already did that when they fired Solich for winning 9 games just 2 years after making a NC appearance.
I think Riley is a really good coach, but not what Nebraska needs. Bohl would have been perfect for them, or another young guy who can recruit.
I think Riley is a really good coach, but not what Nebraska needs. Bohl would have been perfect for them, or another young guy who can recruit.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:22 pm to koLSU86
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It's basically the same situation with Miles at this point
Haha OK.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:24 pm to KCTigerFan212
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Jim Tressel
This was just a rumor. Anyone with a brain knows he's in time out until December of 2016. He was never a candidate. Now Bret was, but he turned them down.
That's the risk you take when making coaching changes.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:29 pm to TigersHuskers
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They were never gonna get Jim Tressel. He would have only further divided the fan base after Bo made it bad enough with his terrible attitude and demeanor.
From everything I've read today, seems like the fan base is more divided than ever.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:32 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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From everything I've read today, seems like the fan base is more divided than ever.
Ehhh, I would give it a few weeks to set in and to see who he takes as his staff. If its a winning staff, then he will be a winning coach.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:33 pm to dgnx6
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This was just a rumor. Anyone with a brain knows he's in time out until December of 2016. He was never a candidate. Now Bret was, but he turned them down.
That's the risk you take when making coaching changes.
Thats the way I was treating it too. I hated the idea of Jim coming here. And had no idea why people gave it so much credence.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:55 pm to TigersHuskers
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Thats the way I was treating it too. I hated the idea of Jim coming here. And had no idea why people gave it so much credence.
Honestly I don't know if he could even take the job. But still for two years someone else would have the job. No way that would ever work. Yes could you just hold this spot for 2 years then get demoted once the cheaters no show clause runs out. What respectable coach would accept that situation?
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