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re: Well, now I wish we would have lost
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
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ok that's fine if that's how you feel. But just tell me who you would want if Fisher and Herman fall through? Because no matter what, at that point you are taking a huge risk with any hire.
I think Gundy would be my next call. He's had success as a head coach at a power 5 school and is an offensive mind. I think he checks the boxes. I think he is much less risky than Orgeron.
I think PJ Fleck deserves a call, but I think that's a risky hire. As much as I'm indifferent about Fedora, I think he is a better hire than Orgeron.
I don't understand the logic behind hiring a head coach that needs two elite coordinators to be successful.
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:46 am to UpToPar
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I don't understand the logic behind hiring a head coach that needs two elite coordinators to be successful.
I'll take it a step further - I don't understand the logic of waning Orgeron to stay on board but being adamant that Ensminger is fired. If O's done enough, so has Ensminger. If Ensminger hasn't done enough, neither has O. Seems pretty cut and dry.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:47 am to UpToPar
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ok that's fine if that's how you feel. But just tell me who you would want if Fisher and Herman fall through? Because no matter what, at that point you are taking a huge risk with any hire.
Any hire is a risk. Jimbo is the safest. Herman is a risk.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:47 am to biglego
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Was it the emotional fans last year, or was it politicians balking at spending money on a football coach when the state is broke? (Knowing the average Louisiana resident wil never understand the football coach isn't paid with tax dollars)
I think the fans certainly played a part. I think if the fans don't come out in support of keeping Miles I think the powers that he would have been under a lot more pressure and less likely to cave to the politics.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:48 am to UpToPar
Thank god we lost to Florida. Just imagine the noise if not for that.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:48 am to slackster
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I'll take it a step further - I don't understand the logic of waning Orgeron to stay on board but being adamant that Ensminger is fired. If O's done enough, so has Ensminger. If Ensminger hasn't done enough, neither has O. Seems pretty cut and dry.
This is a good point.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:48 am to UpToPar
We aren't hiring fricking Orgeron lord
Posted on 11/25/16 at 1:58 am to UpToPar
Who has been adamant about replacing Ensminger?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:00 am to Mickey Goldmill
Most people clamoring for O have said that they think he can be successful if he has an elite OC, at which point Kiffen usually gets mentioned.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:00 am to UpToPar
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I don't understand the logic behind hiring a head coach that needs two elite coordinators to be successful.
Almost every elite coach has 2 elite coordinators. Jimbo is a big exception but that's because FSU is cheap. We are not.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:02 am to UpToPar
The O tards trashing Herman on FB tonight was the worst I have seen. Worse than them trashing fisher. Say he doesn't have a clue about the SEC. well neither did Saban and Meyer and looked how that turned out.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 2:03 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:03 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Almost every elite coach has 2 elite coordinators. Jimbo is a big exception but that's because FSU is cheap. We are not.
That's not true. Bama's success is not dependent on an elite DC. Ohio State's success is not dependent on an elite OC. I don't even know who Michigan's coordinators are.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:03 am to UpToPar
That has a lot to do with the assumption that Ensminger doesn't want the job full time and that O would be expected/required to have a big name OC in place.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:05 am to Mickey Goldmill
Why wouldn't Ensminger want the full time job? Has he said he doesn't want it?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:12 am to UpToPar
He's never said he wanted it. From what I've read, it's assumed he would prefer a less stressful job and would like to go back to coaching tight ends.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:19 am to Jwho77
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who actually go to games will be there no matter what.
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The other fans who spend money
So going to games doesn't cost anything and staying home costs money?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:58 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:If both Jimbo and Herman say no I can think of only one, maybe, worth taking a risk on and that's Mike McIntyre. I'm not sure where he and CEO lie in relation to each other in my own head though. Just another name I think should be considered in that situation.
ok that's fine if that's how you feel. But just tell me who you would want if Fisher and Herman fall through? Because no matter what, at that point you are taking a huge risk with any hire.
If CO happens to beat Washington in PAC 12 champ game, and this search happens to be still ongoing at that time then... maybe.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:08 am to UpToPar
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:11 am to UpToPar
I would probably reach out to Bill O'Brian of the Texans to gauge his potential interest as well. We pay a competitive salary and I think he would be an upgrade over most of the other candidates out there. Texans don't appear to be headed anywhere, at least with Osweiler at the helm.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:19 am to Mickey Goldmill
No expert here but shouldn't your head coach be considered a top mind on at least one side of the ball? Coach O isn't highly regarded as a defensive mastermind, so there would be a break in continuity whenever your coordinator left. I suspect that's the secret to coaches like Saban and Meyer. O would be more like Miles in that regard, dependant on the success of his coordinators.
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