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Was Mike MacIntyre ever considered?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:08 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:08 am
Nothing to do with pro-O or anti-O since it's a done deal now but more of a general wondering among the fans. What was our perception about Mike MacIntyre all along? Was he ever considered a qualified candidate for this job? He's somewhat proven in two different programs. Honestly, who would ever think before the season a shitty program like Colorado would climb all the way to top 10? I will give Mike MacIntyre credit for that.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:09 am
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:10 am to VesperiaLSU
The tiers were like this:
Tier 1: Fisher, Herman
Tier 2: Coach O
Tier 3: Fleck, MacIntyre, Fedora
Pretty fricking sad, isn't it? All those REAL head coaches....
Tier 1: Fisher, Herman
Tier 2: Coach O
Tier 3: Fleck, MacIntyre, Fedora
Pretty fricking sad, isn't it? All those REAL head coaches....
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:10 am to VesperiaLSU
If you believe this tweet: LINK
He was included in our "next three" choices. I sincerely doubt we actually had a list that extended beyond Orgeron, though.
He was included in our "next three" choices. I sincerely doubt we actually had a list that extended beyond Orgeron, though.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:12 am to tiggerthetooth
There were no Tiers... it was:
Jimbo... but then Sexton...
Herman... but then Texas...
frick it... Orgeron...
There was no vetting, no list of interviews... no coaching search in effect.
Jimbo... but then Sexton...
Herman... but then Texas...
frick it... Orgeron...
There was no vetting, no list of interviews... no coaching search in effect.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:14 am to VesperiaLSU
Why would Alleva consider a successful up and coming coach?
" we only made one offer"-joe alleva
" we only made one offer"-joe alleva
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:15 am to Goose
quote:
There were no Tiers... it was:
Jimbo... but then Sexton...
Herman... but then Texas...
frick it... Orgeron...
There was no vetting, no list of interviews... no coaching search in effect.
I was going by the Dellenger tweet, and it had
1/2-Herman/Fisher
3. Orgeron
4. Fleck, Fedora, MacIntyre
So there was something like that...if we're basing this on information from people who spoke with the decision makers.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:21 am to LSUTigerfaninHtown
quote:
He was included in our "next three" choices. I sincerely doubt we actually had a list that extended beyond Orgeron, though.
Why would we? Like Ogeron was going to turn down the job? Give me a fricking break. There was never any coaching search by Alleva. I still can't believe it. No other P5 school in America would let their AD get away with this. The only pleasure I have left to look forward to with LSU athletics is the day that mother fricker is fired.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:26 am to tiggerthetooth
I have a feeling P.J. Fleck and Mike MacIntyre will be next year's "Tom Herman", and it will be helluva harder and costly to get them when they become truly "proven". Had we fired Miles last year and secure Herman back then, it would be a whole different story at this point. I know it's easier said than done, but a successful AD normally possesses instincts like a business man where he is able to make informative gambles and act proactively ahead of everyone else. We did that when we hired Saban, but I guess Alleva just doesn't have the killer instinct to pull a string like that.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:33 am to GeauxBayouBengals
I don't think they ever expect O to turn down the job if being offered. The third tier is there in case: Herman/Fisher turn down our offer & O totally fricked up the "audition" and the final interview. Only under that scenario, LSU would do a real "search" for the job and tier 3 is where they start with.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:34 am to VesperiaLSU
quote:
Honestly, who would ever think before the season a shitty program like Colorado would climb all the way to top 10? I will give Mike MacIntyre credit for that.
Mac is a great coach. But I also think the Pac12 is historically down this season. Half the teams in the Pac12 have losing records. USC was very bad this year at the beginning of the season. Colorado's best win is a 9 win Stanford team.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:41 am to CaptainBrannigan
I agree with your evaluation of PAC12, but on the flip side, why would people get so crazy over Herman who lost 4 games in the American Conference? People keep talking about a head coach's best wins, but constantly ignore his worst losses. My point is, if Herman can be considered a tier1 candidate for doing what he did at Houston this year, so should Fleck and MacIntyre.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:42 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:
if we're basing this on information from people who spoke with the decision makers.
That's the problem. He spoke to the people that didn't do their fricking jobs, and are telling people what they want to hear.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:16 am to BayouBengals18
he'll be at ut next season if they fire butch.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:18 am to VesperiaLSU
That's the saddest part about all this. We literally didn't look into any options not named Orgeron until we lost the Florida games, then we targeted 2 candidates and went back to O anyway
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:34 am to VesperiaLSU
quote:
My point is, if Herman can be considered a tier1 candidate for doing what he did at Houston this year, so should Fleck and MacIntyre.
But Herman also was considered based on a conference title and a Peach Bowl win last year.
Fleck and MacIntyre didn't break through at their programs until this year.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:15 am to nvasil1
MacIntyre's rebuilding of Colorado is much more impressive than Herman at UH. No knock on Tom, but Briles and Sumlin had that program playing damn good ball, placed qbs in the NFL, etc.
Colorado was historically bad in the PAC-12. They went from getting crushed week in and week out, to losing close last year, to Division champs. The culture there had to be changed entirely.
Colorado was historically bad in the PAC-12. They went from getting crushed week in and week out, to losing close last year, to Division champs. The culture there had to be changed entirely.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:32 am to VesperiaLSU
quote:
I have a feeling P.J. Fleck and Mike MacIntyre will be next year's "Tom Herman", and it will be helluva harder and costly to get them when they become truly "proven". Had we fired Miles last year and secure Herman back then, it would be a whole different story at this point. I know it's easier said than done, but a successful AD normally possesses instincts like a business man where he is able to make informative gambles and act proactively ahead of everyone else. We did that when we hired Saban, but I guess Alleva just doesn't have the killer instinct to pull a string like that.
A lot (Not All) of the posts on this CC Board are of much higher quality and more well thought out than the juvenile rantings on the Rant. Why is that?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:26 am to TexasTiger08
quote:
MacIntyre's rebuilding of Colorado is much more impressive than Herman at UH. No knock on Tom, but Briles and Sumlin had that program playing damn good ball, placed qbs in the NFL, etc.
Colorado was historically bad in the PAC-12. They went from getting crushed week in and week out, to losing close last year, to Division champs. The culture there had to be changed entirely.
Colorado was a mess, but what MacIntyre did at San Jose State was at least as impressive. When Dick Tomey came to SJSU he wasn't told what a dismal academic situation they had. They lost a bunch of scholarships and the outlook for the team was bleak. Tomey dedicated himself to fixing the situation and while his teams had terrible records on the field, people who knew what was going on understood that he was saving the program. When Tomey retired, MacIntyre took over what he had started and kept building them up. In MacIntyre's first year, they did not have all their scholarships back yet and finished 1-12. By his 3rd year, and only 2nd year at full scholarship strength, they finished 11-2. Pretty amazing.
https://blogs.sjsu.edu/newsroom/2013/ncaa-org-getting-it-back-how-san-jose-state-excels-in-the-classroom/
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:29 am to Goose
quote:
There was no vetting, no list of interviews... no coaching search in effect.
I'll suck it up in terms of the hire, but I'm never going to get over Alleva just phoning it in over the past 2 months.
He had 8+ weeks to get something lined up so LSU was on the front foot heading forward. He bungled it.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 4:31 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Colorado's best win is a 9 win Stanford team.
They'd be a 10 win Stanford team if Colorado won. MacIntyre did good work at Colorado. He'll be a top target next year.
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