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re: *******Update 6:30***Tidbits on LSU OC search

Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:49 pm to
I guess he doesnt have Skype, FaceTime or any other form of modern communication. Never said it was in person.

Process is like this

Vet candidates
Speak to Agents
If interested, negotiate through Agent
If plausible, phone interviews
If terms are good, final interview is face to face.

This is usually how any major business hires. It's not a one day thing ordeal.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:50 pm to
Read Kiffin and wife trying to reconcile. ..may be a factor in location
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:51 pm to
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What I am calling a Power spread is similar to what I assume you are calling Veer and Shoot. In the manner of doubling at the POC with a puller either a HB or Guard. Spread the field, strech the field vertically, and then mainly run off tackle down hill.


What you are describing sounds more like the veer and shoot, which is the Briles family jewel. Unlike a lot of the big spread coaches (like Herman), they did not share secrets and tips with other coaches. Art Briles wanted to keep the system as his own, and so only a few guys who worked with him run it.

Most power spread teams, Bama, Houston and OSU this year, for example, tend to focus more on intermediate passing and attacking the edges as much, if not more than, the center in the run game. Think about where and how you saw Hurts running the ball. It was mostly attacking East-West and getting to the edge. Most of his passing also came on short and intermediate throws.

I guess you would say that the veer and shoot is just a hybrid of the air-raid and power spread. The veer and shoot and power spread share more in common that either would with a true spread option offense, like Oregon.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:53 pm to
lane likely wanted to add in provisions for an open relationship in the prenup.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:54 pm to
Shut the frick up retard. It doesn't matter if it's our 10th choice, as long as it's a quality OC.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:55 pm to
He said UT. He's been at UT for one year.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6500 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:56 pm to
Traylor would be a Home run hire as far as recruiting goes.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:57 pm to
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I know the UT QB was hurt during the later part of the season, but I read that a lot of UT fans was upset with some of the play calling in critical situations. I also read that he hadn't been a playcaller for very long. Not sure if true though. Gilbert was also a guy that I wanted to get an interview also. I'm just ready for LSU to utilize an up to date offense.


Yeah. There were a lot of complaints that he got figured out as the year went along. I heard that ad well.

The thing is, all of our candidates except Riley have major concerns or red flags. Helfrich has never been a full-time play caller. He also would bring a difficult transition. Kiffin has gone off the rails and abandoned the run game at times. Canada has had some very ordinary passing offenses and was just fired last year. So yeah, all but one has some warts to think about.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Ok. Then were his comments about waiting until after the bowl game bullshite, or is he being forced to alter his original plan because of the recruiting backlash? Or is he still waiting? He's made other comments that haven't lined up, like his conflicting messaging on QB recruiting.

Because this is all last minute bullshite

Canada wasn't even on Os radar until he was mentioned on here. Now hes flying in, 2 days after LK takes a HC. Lincoln Riley was the UH leader until 4 days ago. He was not interviewed by LSU before then. And LSU didn't offer Tua, while they were interviewing other OCs. Recruits were bailing because we appeared rudderless. So theres your timeline.

The move on the OC job didn't start until Sat, because Ed O was WAITING on LK. The binder was all about LK. O was hired based on that guarantee. Everything from that point, has been just grasping at straws

Ed O gets no rope next year. None.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:57 pm to
yeah he'd be a terror in east texas
Posted by DeBerryJacket
DeBerry
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:58 pm to
Traylor is well thought of in the Texas High School Coaching circles. Would definitely help with recruiting. He is a good offensive mind too.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
1964 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:59 pm to
If this has been perceived as a hard sell, its only by our doom and gloom fanbase. We're about to hire a Broyles finalist(hopefully)
Posted by Woodford Rocks
Louisviile
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:03 pm to
It doesn't appear as though you are giving any rope now, much less next year.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26735 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:06 pm to
There are less sandy vaginas on the Poli Board than there are here.

Some of you people sound like entitled assholes.

Assuming that if you don't know about it, it never happened.

Assuming that when info comes out, it's not true because you didn't already know.

Demanding that things happen on YOUR timeline.

Assuming rumors or hearsay are facts and crying fowl when they don't happen.

Posted by 4EvEr Bo REIN
Member since Oct 2016
583 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:10 pm to
Power Spread is more of what they call Smashmouth Spread what U Meyers runs at Ohio St. They flow runs power straight to the point of contact with large Olinemen and large running backs. Remember when he was at Utah and then Florida ( A. Smith then T. Tebow) it was Spread to Run. But he adapted with what they have in the Midwest huge Olinemen.
Kiffen on the other hand is a Pro Spread has to have a smart qb to run it. Who ever comes will adapt and over come. Is what it is
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29991 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:11 pm to
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Myles Brennan's high school coach Bill Conides tells @wafb Matt Canada would not only be a great fit for #LSU, but for Brennan as the OC.


From doucet
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:11 pm to
I agree Briles's system is more of a hybrid. Power Spread
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 9:18 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

There are less sandy vaginas on the Poli Board than there are here. Some of you people sound like entitled assholes. Assuming that if you don't know about it, it never happened. Assuming that when info comes out, it's not true because you didn't already know. Demanding that things happen on YOUR timeline. Assuming rumors or hearsay are facts and crying fowl when they don't happen.


I'm not demanding anything. However, if our own damn recruits are speaking out publicly over their concerns with the direction of the offense, or not having a clue what is going on, that IS. A. REAL. frickING. PROBLEM.

That isn't message board bullshite. That is bad recruiting press leading into the dead period, where it likely will reverberate in an echo chamber while there is little to no new recruiting news until mid-Jan. That doesn't help us. Unfortunately, a couple of O's decisions have exacerbated this problem. This is not up for debate. It has nothing to do with entitled fans. I want to see O succeed, but right now, recruiting is not. Sticking your head in the sand does not equal support. It equals stupidity.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

quote: Myles Brennan's high school coach Bill Conides tells @wafb Matt Canada would not only be a great fit for #LSU, but for Brennan as the OC.


I like the sound of that. Getting Brennan back on board could be the beginning of things settling down in offensive recruiting. That would be excellent news.
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