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re: This is a TOP 5 job
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:24 am to pkf4lsu
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:24 am to pkf4lsu
Herman. There's a reason so many UT fans are freaking out that LSU is in the mix. This guy's ceiling is Saban-like. It's a gut feeling, but if we land Herman, Saban's trend starts to move downward.
We're at a crossroads in the program and the right/wrong hire could make or break us for the next 10 years. We could end up like USCw or Florida if the wrong hire is made. Or, we could end up like Ohio State with a boost in the program and a Natty to boot.
I don't think fans who have O as their preferred choice truly understand what is at stake here. As a fan base, we've been pretty spoiled the last 15 years or so. We had Saban, won a natty, then had Miles, won a natty and were a perennial top 10 team. Yea, the last 3 years have been rough, but they certainly haven't been Florida in the post Meyer age, or Texas in the post Brown age, or USCw in the post Carrol age.
This is way too big of a moment to waste on anything less than a homerun hire. Herman gives you that for sure. Jimbo is a close second. O might be a stand-up double...
We're at a crossroads in the program and the right/wrong hire could make or break us for the next 10 years. We could end up like USCw or Florida if the wrong hire is made. Or, we could end up like Ohio State with a boost in the program and a Natty to boot.
I don't think fans who have O as their preferred choice truly understand what is at stake here. As a fan base, we've been pretty spoiled the last 15 years or so. We had Saban, won a natty, then had Miles, won a natty and were a perennial top 10 team. Yea, the last 3 years have been rough, but they certainly haven't been Florida in the post Meyer age, or Texas in the post Brown age, or USCw in the post Carrol age.
This is way too big of a moment to waste on anything less than a homerun hire. Herman gives you that for sure. Jimbo is a close second. O might be a stand-up double...
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 8:57 am
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:28 am to ibleedprplngld
Couldn't agree with you more. Spot on
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:05 am to Rougarou13
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How would you feel if we release coach O and he goes to another FBS school and wins a championship? See I can do unlikely hypotheticals too.
Considering no other schools are lining up to hire him, I'll take the chance.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:09 am to John Cena
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He would stay longer because he would lose more games. Probably just as many as Miles. Jimbo can't beat Saban.
They played head to head FSU defeated Saban and Bama. Look it up.
Also, anything else you might add will be wrong as well. Go back to bed.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:11 am to Rougarou13
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On a short leash. 2 year contract with no buyout short leash. If he tanks we reopen the coaching search without worrying about a buyout.
You do realize both sides have to agree to a contract, right?
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:26 am to Rougarou13
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My reasons for liking O are based more so on me WANTING him to be a great coach.
This is me also. He is doing everything right so far. He is managing this time instead of dictating. There are some really good coaches on staff and he seems to let them do their job.
If not O, Jimbo would be my next choice. He has been tested by adversity. I am not sold on Hermann. I am not sure if he could handle the constant scrutiny.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:29 am to pkf4lsu
Herman or Jimbo 
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:35 am to Muahahaha
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Where else would Herman go that would be better than LSU?
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:52 am to Rougarou13
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My reasons for liking O are based more so on me WANTING him to be a great coach.
This is incredibly dangerous.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:04 am to SportTiger1
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My reasons for liking O are based more so on me WANTING him to be a great coach.
This is incredibly dangerous.
This is true, but if he turns out to be a great coach, that means LSU is finishing the season strong. Maybe 1 loss. After taking over like he has, that would mean he has turned this season around.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:14 am to pkf4lsu
I want someone for the long term. Larry Fedora or Dan Mullen.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:26 am to ibleedprplngld
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Herman. There's a reason so many UT fans are freaking out that LSU is in the mix. This guy's ceiling is Saban-like. It's a gut feeling, but if we land Herman, Saban's trend starts to move downward.
We're at a crossroads in the program and the right/wrong hire could make or break us for the next 10 years. We could end up like USCw or Florida if the wrong hire is made. Or, we could end up like Ohio State with a boost in the program and a Natty to boot.
I don't think fans who have O as their preferred choice truly understand what is at stake here. As a fan base, we've been pretty spoiled the last 15 years or so. We had Saban, won a natty, then had Miles, won a natty and were a perennial top 10 team. Yea, the last 3 years have been rough, but they certainly haven't been Florida in the post Meyer age, or Texas in the post Brown age, or USCw in the post Carrol age.
This is way too big of a moment to waste on anything less than a homerun hire. Herman gives you that for sure. Jimbo is a close second. O might be a stand-up double...
spot on... good post
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:27 am to 4LSU2
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Jimbo's stock is dropping fast.
Why exactly??
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:28 am to Haughton99
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Haughton99
I just don't get all the concern of Herman going to the NFL. Sure, he may eventually. But in a nearly 20 year coaching career, he's never been a pro coach.
Looking at the most recent college guys to go to the pros, only Chip Kelly had no NFL experience before becoming an NFL HC.
Harbaugh, Saban, Carroll, and Spurrier all had pro coaching experience prior to becoming a college head coach, all in the first 10-15 years of the career.
Maybe Herman goes the Kelly route, but thats something a school worries about when it happens. Can't let that keep you from hiring the best Foch available.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:50 am to pkf4lsu
It is a top 5 job, but it all depends on who you ask. Its not for everyone. You have to fact in the state of the SEC west right now.. You have Bama who dominates the west and you also have TA&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Auburn, which are not "gimme wins". The only thing close to a "gimme win" in the west is Miss St.. And LSU would have lost to them this year if they didn't fumble. For coaches who want a challenge it is perfect, but for a coach who might not want to risk success then it is not the best job.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:51 am to Lebowski
JIMBO BAW HURR DURRRRR
nice link btw
nice link btw
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:58 am to John Cena
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John Cena
Your hatred for Jimbo is unparalleled.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:00 am to John Cena
why does everyone assume that a 2nd/3rd/4th yr spread/jet sweep/speed sweep coach would bolt for the nfl? wouldnt the nfl even want him? chip Kelly aint exactly setting California on fire. (that's the santa anna winds)
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:21 am to Lebowski
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They played head to head FSU defeated Saban and Bama. Look it up.
Last time FSU and Bama played was 2007, Bobby Bowden was the coach, and FSU vacated the 7 wins they had that year. The time before was in the 70s, so when, exactly, did a Jimbo led FSU beat a Saban led Alabama?
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:31 am to pkf4lsu
No Jimbo, controversy from day one.
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