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The case for Tee Martin OC

Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:13 am
recruiter of the year last year and 2nd so far this year. He did a solid job with the OC position his one year as OC at USC. Do we really need a OC genius and is Kiffen really a genius anyway.? We did pretty well with Ensminger, and Tee Martin at the minimum is a big upgrade from him. If we are going to catch up to bama we need better players and Tee Martin would be a step in that direction.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 9:16 am
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:15 am to
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Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9297 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:17 am to
A lot of guys could look good when calling plays for Sam Darnold.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66348 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:31 am to
We are going to have to scheme around Bama. I don't think Tee Martin is going to do that.

Also Clay Helton was the OC before he was HC. So you have to wonder if Martin has really developed his own offense.

He will have full autonomy at LSU have to wonder if he is ready to mark that leap.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:44 am to
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Also Clay Helton was the OC before he was HC. So you have to wonder if Martin has really developed his own offense.


It may not be Tee Martins own offense but he must of learned a few things under Helton. Plus he was the passing game coordinator there for a few years.

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We are going to have to scheme around Bama.


better players would go a long way as well. I would go with better players with a wide open pro style offense over some OC, with his own offense, who doesn't bring in as good of recruits
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9219 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:44 am to
Don't really need but would be great to have another awesome recruiter. LSU Needs a Great OC who can also develop QB's.
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9219 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:45 am to
Canada, Kiffin or Riley. IMO for new OC coach.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:47 am to
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The case for Tee Martin OC


Other than recruiting there is none!
I have no idea why he is so high on anyone's list. He played in a college offense that featured the running game. His resume as an offensive assistant is not great.
Where has he shown offensive creativity?

He's coached at New Mexico and Kentucky before USC and has one year as USC OC. What has he proven? He learned his chops under Joker Phillips?

If this is our hire, then O is going to have a short career as HC.

This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:53 am to
Perhaps he's a good QB developer, but isn't his offensive background predominately pro-style?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Perhaps he's a good QB developer, but isn't his offensive background predominately pro-style?


nothing wrong with pro style if it is done the right way. No a 1970's pro style won't work but a 2010's pro style works just fine.

I'll take a modern pro style with elite athletes all day long
Posted by Venturetiger
Member since Sep 2011
507 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:24 am to
No - we have enough recruiters this hire is too important - if you win recruiting takes care of itself
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

we have enough recruiters this hire is too important - if you win recruiting takes care of itself


can never have "enough" top recruiters on staff and USC thought enough of his OC talents to make him their OC.

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if you win recruiting takes care of itself


there is a lot more to it than just that
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:02 am to
Way off base on this one. OC needs to be brilliant in schemes and play calls first. He will shape the offense since O has no offensive experience.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:05 am to
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The case for Tee Martin OC


Ok sounds great now explain to me WHY Martin is going to leave USC where he is the OC to come to LSU and be the OC? Since at best it is a lateral move and at worst it could be looked at as a slight downward move.

Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88678 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:09 am to
Not to mention his wife has business in LA and loves it there. You go tell your wife who loves Hollywood we movin to the Bayou
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:16 am to
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Ok sounds great now explain to me WHY Martin is going to leave USC where he is the OC to come to LSU and be the OC?


because due to all the money we saved by hiring Orgeron we are going to double whatever amount USC offers to keep him.

I would think by now everyone would realize, especially considering Bama, that talent wins championships. You can out scheme and win a game here and there but talent is going to win out over the long haul.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98918 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:21 am to
He's a fantastic recruiter but he was absolute shite for a WR coach at UK.
Posted by radicalizedtigah
Member since Aug 2016
3495 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:45 am to
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recruiter of the year last year and 2nd so far this year


Already have 1 offensive coach, D. Craig, who can recruit but not as able on the coaching aspect. We need an offensive ninja.
Posted by PairofDucks
Member since Jul 2016
4992 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:58 am to
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Canada, Kiffin or Riley. IMO for new OC coach.


You're an idiot if you think that Riley is coming.

Come on.
Posted by KnoxBengal
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2015
117 posts
Posted on 12/11/16 at 12:02 pm to
Put away the bottle Uncle Willie.
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