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re: Something I think you guys dont understand about Michigan culture

Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:03 am to
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:03 am to
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something low like $1.6M but supposedly hes in bed with some boosters and has some stock where hes making a pretty penny "away" from football. so says a couple know-it-alls on this board
Alot of speculation. Since TCU is a private school, not many actually know what Patterson makes. The Dallas News reported this: LINK
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The exact terms of his new contract, which extends his current deal by two years to 2016, were not disclosed, but sources close to the TCU administration say the new deal is guaranteed and puts his salary in the range of $2.5 million annually, up from $1.8 million per year. Also, TCU retained no buyout clause, so Patterson could take another job without a penalty.
I'd guess with bonuses would probably put it close to $3M+. Part of the reason he likes TCU is because it's his wife's hometown and she likes it there. That goes a long way. Also, TCU isn't afraid of investing big $$ into the football program. Their football budget was only behind Texas out of all the Big 12 teams last year, and TCU is building a new stadium. If he really entertained leaving, I'm sure TCU would put up whatever was required to ensure him staying...if it only came down to money.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:09 am to
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Everything I have read points to arrogance and stubbornness as the best way to describe Michigan

it's their niche b/c they can't compete with OSU on the football field (traditionally)

so, they have developed this, "we're better than you anyway" aura

that ties in with the whole "michigan man" thing. upstanding character as a coach. pushing academics. don't bend the rules. positive style. etc etc etc

that way their coach fits in with the, "well you may have the better team, but we do it the RIGHT way"
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 8:10 am
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:12 am to
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it's their niche b/c they can't compete with OSU on the football field (traditionally)

so, they have developed this, "we're better than you anyway" aura

that ties in with the whole "michigan man" thing. upstanding character as a coach. pushing academics. don't bend the rules. positive style. etc etc etc

that way their coach fits in with the, "well you may have the better team, but we do it the RIGHT way"
ugh. i feel so gross. i completely agree with SFP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:20 am to
well you have to b/c i'm 100% right. it's not a hidden fact

rich rod was an attempt to get a leg up and "sell out"

that backfired on and off the field, so you better believe they're going after a "michigan man" this time

and "michigan man" is kind of a misnomer. it's more of a "coached by, and with bo" man
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:23 am to
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Something I think you guys dont understand about Michigan culture
Our University has been well known for not paying top dollar for coaches.


No, just your basketball players.

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Part of that is due to the fact Michigan has a "thing" about wanting to be known for academics rather than athletics.


That's what all the losers say. In every bowl LSU has won I recall the opponent's fans making comments to this effect.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:26 am to
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didnt UM have a bunch of thugs on the BB ball team, especially during the Webber days?

they may have been paid, but they weren't thugs

webber, howard, and rose are all decent guys at worst. they're all intelligent, articulate, etc. far from thugs
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:29 am to
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Aged Woverine



Great post.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:30 am to
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that backfired on and off the field, so you better believe they're going after a "michigan man" this time

and "michigan man" is kind of a misnomer. it's more of a "coached by, and with bo" man

and what if Miles says no? Other than Miles and Harbaugh, who are the "coached by, and with bo" candidates?

If Michigan only wants a Michigan man and strikes out with both, then they're going to be up a creek without a paddle.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:32 am to
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it's their niche b/c they can't compete with OSU on the football field (traditionally)



Are you talking about recently, because Michigan still owns the all-time series.

That is all they can say about OSU though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:32 am to
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and what if Miles says no? Other than Miles and Harbaugh, who are the "coached by, and with bo" candidates?

you missed the point i was trying to make

the "coached by bo" guys are a finite number who are all aging/dying or have jobs

UM is going to have to look to non-bo candidates, but i bet you they're going to look for guys who fit the same character profile
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:34 am to
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Are you talking about recently, because Michigan still owns the all-time series.

what about since the 70s or so?

UM has a gaudy record, but they were playing football with the 4-5 other programs early on and racked up a bunch of success in the ancient days
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:41 am to
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what about since the 70s or so?

UM has a gaudy record, but they were playing football with the 4-5 other programs early on and racked up a bunch of success in the ancient days




Well since the 70s, it has been about even with OSU having a 20-19-2 mark (from 1970 to 2010).

So unless Michigan turns itself around OSU will eventually say that they will own the series.
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 8:44 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:45 am to
based on what buckeye people had told me, i thought it was wider
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:46 am to
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Are you talking about recently, because Michigan still owns the all-time series.

Would that make you feel better if LSU lost to Bama the next 5 games in a row? Bad comparison Bama already owns the all time series but you get my point. It's a what have you done for me lately world we live in. Past success doesn't take away present failures.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 8:54 am to
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Something I think you guys dont understand about Michigan culture


Something you dont undertand about the LSU culture is the fact that we dont give a shite about the MIchigan culture.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:13 am to
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you missed the point i was trying to make
UM is going to have to look to non-bo candidates, but i bet you they're going to look for guys who fit the same character profile
I understand your point now....which is why I guess they'll end up with Hoke if Miles says no. I can imagine a large portion of the UM fanbase is going to be disgruntled.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:20 am to
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Our University has been well known for not paying top dollar for coaches


I stopped reading right there because how much did UM pay for rich rod??????? and before that the last time UM hired a coach was 95. THE GAME CHANGED FOR COACHES WHEN LSU GAVE SABAN 1.25 MILLION IN 99.
Posted by bayouprophet
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:26 am to
I remember an interview somewhere Miles gave, about talking to Bo about LSU, calling his mentor before taking the job. Bo told him it would be chance to make his mark, do his own thing, build something of his own. I think that matters to Miles.

If he leaves it won't be for money. It'll be to leave a new home and go back to an old one. Can't ever fault a man for that.

Posted by aggiegirl2005
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:50 am to
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This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 9:53 am
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:53 am to
aggiegirl whats your cup size???
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