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Should race be a factor in coaching searches?
Posted on 12/8/08 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/8/08 at 6:51 pm
yes or no?
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Posted on 12/8/08 at 6:53 pm to Roaad
Definately. Always consider the race to the National Championship when hiring a coach.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 6:56 pm to agdoctor
NO NO and NO. I don't give a @#$% if it's a freckled Guatemalan Grandma. We just want someone good.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 6:59 pm to Roaad
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Should race be a factor in coaching searches?
Who gives a shite as long as they get results.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:04 pm to Roaad
No. That should not be an issue now - the recent election should have taken care of that argument.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:12 pm to ELLSSUU
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NO NO and NO. I don't give a @#$% if it's a freckled Guatemalan Grandma. We just want someone good.
Your lying and you know. Many people do care about the race of the coach. There aren't many "like" faces on teams already, and fans would like to see the coach be a mirrored reflection.
But the pool of black coaches is very small. There are white guys that put in years of hard work as less-than-respected slaves with hopes of learning to be head coaches. As well as, white players that acknowledge the slim chances of pro careers and focus on coaching through the helmet.
Many black players hisorically have tunnel vision. Pro career, and nothing else. In time their views on their future will become realistic and seek different routes. But now, most available coaches are white and should not be overlooked or pushed to the side to hire guys like Croom. Ultimately it's bad for black coaches because their small pool takes a hit every time an unqualified coach suffers ie. Ty
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:19 pm to secscout
If there are racists in AD offices nationwide, you better believe Willingham is the excuse they point to. . .
That being said, I don't think race should ever be a factor in anything.
That being said, I don't think race should ever be a factor in anything.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:23 pm to Roaad
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That being said, I don't think race should ever be a factor in anything.
By forcing it, itll put unjust pressure on black coaches to succeed. That's not fair at all. Which is why my theory is schools/franchises select minority coaches when the program has reached rock bottom and expectations are minimal. All in an effort to get the monkey off their backs. Then move on.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:25 pm to secscout
quote:I thought Croom was a great coach. That just was not a good situation.
By forcing it, itll put unjust pressure on black coaches to succeed. That's not fair at all. Which is why my theory is schools/franchises select minority coaches when the program has reached rock bottom and expectations are minimal. All in an effort to get the monkey off their backs. Then move on.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:27 pm to secscout
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unqualified coach suffers ie. Ty
Willingham was hardly unqualified, especially considering he had more success at Stanford where it's basically impossible to win consistantly, than any coach since Pop Warner in the 20s, including Bill Walsh. He had a better record than Weiss at ND. Walked into a horrible situation at Washington and couldn't turn it around, which he acknowledged
This post was edited on 12/8/08 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:29 pm to usc6158
He was successful at Stanford, but proved to be unqualified to be the HC at a major program by failing miserably at two major programs.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:31 pm to Roaad
I think unsuccessful and unqualified are two different things. He was qualified when ND hired him. There was a lot of talk that he actually might get an NFL job before ND picked him up.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:31 pm to Roaad
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I thought Croom was a great coach. That just was not a good situation.
My theory as stated above.
Willingham was hardly unqualified, especially considering he had more success at Stanford, where it's basically impossible to win consistantly, than any coach ever, including Bill Walsh. He had a better record than Weiss at ND. Walked into a horrible situation at Washington and couldn't turn it around, which he acknowledged
My theory as stated above.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:32 pm to usc6158
Lack of success makes you unqualified, no?
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:33 pm to usc6158
quote:Ty>Weiss
He had a better record than Weiss at ND
And yes, that is sad that Weiss is that bad.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:34 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Excuse me if your answer doesn't sate my thirst for knowledge.
No
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:35 pm to Roaad
quote:
Lack of success makes you unqualified, no?
He had significant success when ND hired him....He was also their second choice behind Oleary when that whole thing went down
After the washington fiasco, a program know might consider his past work to be unqualified, but at the time it wasn't
Posted on 12/8/08 at 7:36 pm to usc6158
quote:I am talking about in retrospect.
He had significant success when ND hired him
Posted on 12/8/08 at 8:15 pm to Roaad
yes
for recruiting. it sometimes does matter, even though some see porter as fake
for recruiting. it sometimes does matter, even though some see porter as fake
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