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Riley to LSU seems far-fetched...you rarely see lateral moves at the top level of CFB

Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:30 am
Going from Oklahoma to LSU is a lateral move. Riley is already paid a lot and Oklahoma can afford to match anything that LSU can pay. Oklahoma will be in the SEC within the next four years, and, if we move to pods, will likely be in the easiest pod.

There is precedent for lateral moves, but that usually entailed a coach leaving their school outside the SEC to go to the SEC (eg, Jimbo Fisher and Brett Bielema).

Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn't make sense.

Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:31 am to
Semi agree. But OU hasn’t won a title in, what, 2 decades?

LSU is certainly a better job
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10571 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:32 am to
I am positive the hire will be underwhelming purely due to available candidates. Of the real possibilities, I'm not excited.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:32 am to
The Louisiana recruiting advantage is really the only factor that makes sense IMO.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Going from Oklahoma to LSU is a lateral move. Riley is already paid a lot and Oklahoma can afford to match anything that LSU can pay. Oklahoma will be in the SEC within the next four years, and, if we move to pods, will likely be in the easiest pod.

There is precedent for lateral moves, but that usually entailed a coach leaving their school outside the SEC to go to the SEC (eg, Jimbo Fisher and Brett Bielema).

Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn't make sense.




I don't think it is exactly lateral. It's close but it's not.

And OU won't moonwalk into the playoffs once they join the SEC. LSU has a better chance at success in the SEC and I don't think that's too debatable considering we've won 3 titles since OUs last one (appeared in 4) and have been in the harder conference.

Posted by Usual Suspect
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:36 am to
With all due respect, you hired Larry Leo so your hiring expertise is suspect.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:38 am to
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10161 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:38 am to
Valid. OU has won 6 straight Big 12 championships going back to 2015.

Would they have won the SEC any of those years?
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:38 am to
Oklahoma has a far more competent administration at the school and to my knowledge don't have any ongoing investigations into the program. That would certainly have to be taken into account as well..

I don't think an OU coach has ever left for another job.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:39 am to
This fan base is getting its hopes up.

We will end up with a Aranda or Napier type coach.
Posted by budlight34
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:40 am to
Sorry, but the idea of Riley to LSU doesn't make sense.

I can give you 11-12 million reasons it would make sense
Posted by mkemp0113
Member since Dec 2007
1200 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:40 am to
He would come to LSU because he knows how hard it is already for him to have to recruit talent nationally to even come close to the regional talent the consistent players in the SEC get every year without even really trying. Sure, they will soon be in the SEC, but there's no way they maintain the same success as in years past playing an SEC schedule every year. And those same players will then go elsewhere.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10164 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Chicken


someone got to you!
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4307 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:42 am to
- Recruiting Louisiana
- Only power 5 in the state
- LSU is an ESTABLISHED SEC "power" and lifelong member. - - Oklahoma won't be perennial favorites like they are in the Big 12 and will be "newbies" to the league

May not make sense to us, but may make perfect sense to Riley. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22021 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:43 am to
quote:

With all due respect, you hired Larry Leo so your hiring expertise is suspect.
I am about to increase Larry's responsibilities since Dhillip has been slacking.
Posted by tigersaint74
Poopoo, Hawaii
Member since Feb 2007
667 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I am positive the hire will be underwhelming purely due to available candidates. Of the real possibilities, I'm not excited.

Can't help but feel that the underwhelming hire will be Mel Tucker after being pushed on Woodward by the LSU president. People may feel that Woodward will not allow someone to dictate to him who gets hired, but I find that hard to believe.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26806 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:44 am to
In the highest levels of college football, the top 25 overall programs, only 1 coach came from another top 25 program -- Jimbo Fisher.

Only two -- James Franklin and Dan Mullen, came from lower level P5 schools.

These types of moves just don't happen very often. Could it? Of course, just not likely.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25008 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:44 am to
Not sure I agree with the lateral move assessment.

While OU is clearly a blue blood program overall, and LSU isn’t within historical context, I think the LSU job is clearly the elite job over OU.

Iron sharpens iron and LSU has been in the gauntlet and won 3 natties since OU has. It’s an “all in” mentality at LSU and in the SEC. That makes a difference.

LSU also has a lockdown on elite level, home-grown talent while OU depends on TX kids. OU, TX and A&M all in the SEC and depending on TX talent makes LSU’s recruiting proposition that much more appealing.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56533 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Riley to LSU seems far-fetched


It's a 2% type of long shot.

LSU's 2% is offering him top money in CFB (reasonable prediction) and Riley deciding that a commitment like that would justify a move that on paper simply doesn't make sense.

Beyond that, you are right. It doesn't make sense. It's about 50 times more likely that LSU hasn't even talked to Riley or his representation.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:45 am to
I could see the move to the SEC being more of a reason for him to do it. He won't be able to rely on his advance straight to the playoffs pass through the Big 12

but yes this mostly feels like a get an extension from OU move.
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