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re: Possible replacement for Oregon: Sumlin

Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:01 pm to
Lol, you don't know anything about Sumlin if you think he is going to go coach Oregon. There is a greater chance that I will be Oregon's HC
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56366 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:12 pm to
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Texas A&M can come up with some cash and why would you leave with Johnny Manziel having several more years of eligibility



Oregon is a better job.

Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me if he stayed at A&M given that he hasn't been there long and he is in the middle of building that program. He may want to be the guy who takes a program to the next level instead of inheriting a program that is already at that level.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56366 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:14 pm to
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All our coaches are getting a raise, the big guy included.



It's gonna be a really big raise if Oregon comes calling. It's going to be in the 4M-5M range.
This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Oregon is a national brand now so they can recruit top 5 classes with ease. Eugene, Oregon >>>>> College Station. Nike money. Easier to win in the PAC12 than SEC. Really it's not even close.


Sumlin is an aTm guy. he's not going anywhere.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:21 pm to
This is like the Pac-12 equivalent of Texas fans thinking they are gonna hire Saban. A&M has more money than God, people. If his hat is in the ring, it's only to get a raise.
Posted by dedfella
Ms
Member since Aug 2011
3953 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:31 pm to
With the rumors of NCAA trouble circling Oregon I don't see a coach at an established program (not to mention a coach with a returning Heisman winner) jumping ship to go to Eugene

JMO
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Oregon is a better job.


Not really.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:34 pm to
Before the Fiesta Bowl somebody leaked that they'd just promote their OC when Kelly.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Sumlin is an aTm guy. he's not going anywhere.

While I agree he isn't going anywhere, to say he is an A&M guy is a stretch.

He's from Alabama and played collegiately at Purdue. He coached for one or two years as an assistant at A&M in the early 2000s, but other than that and his current HC position there, he's never been associated with the school.

Now, he'll turn into an A&M guy over time and success, but he is not that at this time.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56366 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 1:56 pm to
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Not really.



I think it clearly is. The connection with Nike makes it better.

People are so quick to look at A&M this year jump to too many conclusions. If you look at A&M over the last 20 years, you'd have a different opinion.

If 4 years from now, A&M is a top tier SEC school, it will be because Sumlin (or some other coach) has developed it into one...not because the program is inherently at that level.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:09 pm to
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I think it clearly is. The connection with Nike makes it better.

People are so quick to look at A&M this year jump to too many conclusions. If you look at A&M over the last 20 years, you'd have a different opinion.

If 4 years from now, A&M is a top tier SEC school, it will be because Sumlin (or some other coach) has developed it into one...not because the program is inherently at that level.


I agree with this too.

I would think it might come down to what motivates Sumlin. Is it where he lives, is it winning championships, is it money, is it getting to the NFL?

His system, as it is run now, is going to do much better on the West coast. He's going to probably have Manziel for only next season. Hard to figure that he'd leave now, but long term, he may have an eye out there.

Let him run the gauntlet here one more season, even with the likes of a Manziel, and I think things may become a bit more clear.
Posted by Dubosed
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:09 pm to
Sorry to piss on your dick but Oregon has never even been remotely close to having a top 5 recruiting class.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52746 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:19 pm to
Oregon has the 44th ranked recruiting class for 2013 according to Rivals.
Posted by T1gerWonder
Member since May 2011
4449 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Sorry to piss on your dick but Oregon has never even been remotely close to having a top 5 recruiting class.

What does that have to do with it? And its funny Oregon has been consistently a top 5 program over the past five years without a great recruiting class. Think if they actually had a good recruiting coach
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:33 pm to
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Sumlin is the fan favorite so far.


You act as if your opinion or the opinion of other message board posters matters.

You haven't even discovered your special purpose yet have you.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12402 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

What does that have to do with it?


He was responding to cockboy's comment that Oregon can recruit Top 5 classes with ease.

This post was edited on 1/16/13 at 2:37 pm
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12402 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

He's going to probably have Manziel for only next season.


lulz
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35746 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Oregon has the 44th ranked recruiting class for 2013 according to Rivals.


Which means nothing right now. This is fairly typical, it'll change.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11285 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Oregon > A&M


bullshite. Now that Aggie is in the SEC they are on the way up.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 1/16/13 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

lulz


If Vegas puts a line on whether he declares for the draft after next season or not, what do you think the line would be?

The kid already acts like he's in the NFL. Time will tell, but in my book, odds are I'll get the last laugh here.
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