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re: Possible replacement for Oregon: Sumlin
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:29 pm to Razorologist
Posted on 1/16/13 at 10:29 pm to Razorologist
A&M likes to think of itself as a destination program, but they've never been elite in any of the big 3 sports, ever.
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 6:26 am to Razorologist
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One thing for sure...Eugene is 1000 times better than College Station. I would run to Oregon so fast I would cause Dust Bowl II as I tore across west Texas.
I couldn't compare the two because I've never been to CS, but I can tell you this.
Eugene was one of the best trips I've ever taken and the town/campus was awesome.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:38 am to CP3LSU25
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CP3LSU25
And before 2002, no one gave a frick about LSU. It doesn't change the fact that both places are ideal for a coach to win at while Oregon is not. You're thinking like a jelly swamp kitten instead of a big time coach.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:42 am to wahoocs
Oregon isn't exactly a bad job. 4 straight bcs bowls. Plus they have Phil knight money. aTm is a good job as well, but I think Oregon is just as good. However, sumlin is goin no where.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:59 am to Gcockboi
Zero chance of that happening.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:04 am to tmc94
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And before 2002, no one gave a frick about LSU. It doesn't change the fact that both places are ideal for a coach to win at while Oregon is not. You're thinking like a jelly swamp kitten instead of a big time coach.
Yeah they only won the 2001 SEC Championship.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 1:36 pm to Gcockboi
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Possible replacement for Oregon: Sumlin
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Possible replacement for Oregon: Sumlin
Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:01 pm to moneyg
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If 4 years from now, A&M is a top tier SEC school, it will be because Sumlin (or some other coach) has developed it into one...not because the program is inherently at that level
So what does it mean to be "inherently" at that level?
There are several components a program must possess to be naturally positioned for long-term success.
Consider these factors as if you're starting from scratch (i.e. the things you want if you're creating a football program at a university).
1) Location--meaning, proximity to recruits.
2) Fan base--a raucous fan base willing to support with the $ is clearly a necessity.
3)$$--Pretty self-evident. Ties into the fan base element.
4) Gameday experience--kids want to know they're going to play in an electric environment week in and week out. Big and loud crowds have a measurable impact on recruits. They want all eyes on them.
5) Exposure--Again, self-evident.
Which of these does A&M not have?
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 3:49 am to DWag215
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So what does it mean to be "inherently" at that level?
There are several components a program must possess to be naturally positioned for long-term success.
Consider these factors as if you're starting from scratch (i.e. the things you want if you're creating a football program at a university).
1) Location--meaning, proximity to recruits.
2) Fan base--a raucous fan base willing to support with the $ is clearly a necessity.
3)$$--Pretty self-evident. Ties into the fan base element.
4) Gameday experience--kids want to know they're going to play in an electric environment week in and week out. Big and loud crowds have a measurable impact on recruits. They want all eyes on them.
5) Exposure--Again, self-evident.
Which of these does A&M not have?
solid post. The A&M job is a far greater than the Oregon job, any of you who think otherwise have no clue about college football. That program may have been down for 10 years, but Oregon has only relevant 10 years. For all the $$$ Knight has A&M's pockets' are MUCH deeper.
That said, no program has made bigger strides in the last 15 years than Oregon. I respect that effort.
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