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re: PJ Fleck for LSU: 13-0 & MAC Champs edition (#ReauxTheBeauxt)
Posted on 10/17/16 at 1:43 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 10/17/16 at 1:43 pm to Prominentwon
skip to 20 seconds in and listen to Fleck's speech & imagine him saying Baton Rouge not Kalamazoo. You'll get chills i promise.
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 2:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The more and more I read and listen to this guy the higher he ascends up the pecking order. He is risky for an LSU type program now and probably needs a mid step up but he could be worth the risk. He has a ton of potential and I might just take the gamble on him. I will be following Western Michigan closely.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 2:56 pm to BigVoodoo
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probably needs a mid step up
I just don't understand this line of thinking. Why? because others repeat the same silly stuff.
Bob stoops had zero h.c. experience when he took over at Oklahoma. P.J. fleck has three years.
Mark Richt- had zero h.c. experience before Georgia. Kirb Smart after him.
David Shaw-had zero h.c. experience before Stanford.
Chip Kelley had zero h.c. experience before Oregon.
I could go on and on.
People love Herman with good reason. However, when you look at Herman and you look at P.J. Fleck, There is little to no difference in the resume. So Fleck hasn't been coordinator, neither were Meyer, Harbaugh, or Swinny. Didn't seem to stop them from becoming great coaches.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 3:04 pm to dos crystal
I'm complimenting the guy not bashing him, if Western Michigan continues to have an unbelievable year he gets an interview and we go from there. He is definitely right now in my top 5
In no particular order
Chip Kelly
Jimbo Fisher
Tom Herman
PJ Fleck
Bobby Petrino
In no particular order
Chip Kelly
Jimbo Fisher
Tom Herman
PJ Fleck
Bobby Petrino
Posted on 10/17/16 at 3:07 pm to BigVoodoo
Good comments , PJ is certainly impressive and deserves an interview. I like the top 5 you have except maybe Petrino , don't know if I like the baggage. Look for Larry Fedora as a wild card.
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
skip to 20 seconds in and listen to Fleck's speech & imagine him saying Baton Rouge not Kalamazoo. You'll get chills i promise.
Interesting prospect for sure. His Mic up and press conf are awesome lol.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 11:56 pm to SportTiger1
I'm starting to warm up to the idea. He's not a sexy name but damn if you do some research into the guy it's hard not to like what you see. The guy is one hell of a communicator.
I think if he gets an interview, all bets are off. I feel like he could blow away an AD in an interview.
I think if he gets an interview, all bets are off. I feel like he could blow away an AD in an interview.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 12:18 am to BigVoodoo
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Chip Kelly
Jimbo Fisher
Tom Herman
PJ Fleck
Bobby Petrino
I like how you think fella...damn strong 5
Posted on 10/18/16 at 12:47 am to dos crystal
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When you watch Fleck's interview, sounds a lot like saban. One game, preparing for pressure, bringing outside resources, n.f.l. g.m's to teach and learn, it's about a process, etc.
I won't lie, I saw this immediately.
The hand gestures, the cadence, the attention to detail, etc...
I think he's a star in the making.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:12 am to SportTiger1
I really want to know what our true list looks like at the moment. I'm glad we got rid of Les, but all of the anticipation and build up to naming a new HC is turning me into a crazy person. 
Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:34 am to Ironhead985
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I'm glad we got rid of Les, but all of the anticipation and build up to naming a new HC is turning me into a crazy person.
Your head is not really Ironhead at all!
Posted on 10/18/16 at 1:43 am to MagillaGuerilla
fine. hire him. i'm exhausted.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:08 am to wildtigercat93
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I'm starting to warm up to the idea. He's not a sexy name but damn if you do some research into the guy it's hard not to like what you see. The guy is one hell of a communicator.
if we whiff on herman and fisher i hope he gets a look
one issue (variable?) would be that if we get past herman/jimbo, i can see the boosters making requirements of the HC (like you keep aranda, raymond, etc). fleck would have to be cool with that
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
I Think one of Flecks benefits is that he wouldn't be very picky in a situation like that. LSU could make him jump through every hoop and he would jump with a smile on his face because the job is so good for him.
My only issue with my issue with him is the little tidbit I read where when he started at WMU, he recinded every scholarship offer to players a few weeks before signing day
His reasoning was "I want kids that want to be here and I wanted them to come to my office and bang on the desk to get their scholarship" basically
They noted that it was during a no contact period of recruiting so they couldn't do that if they wanted to
The media would love the guy. He's open as all frick. He knows what to say and when to say it
My only issue with my issue with him is the little tidbit I read where when he started at WMU, he recinded every scholarship offer to players a few weeks before signing day
His reasoning was "I want kids that want to be here and I wanted them to come to my office and bang on the desk to get their scholarship" basically
They noted that it was during a no contact period of recruiting so they couldn't do that if they wanted to
The media would love the guy. He's open as all frick. He knows what to say and when to say it
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:57 am to clamdip
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fine. hire him. i'm exhausted.
I can't say i disagree with this. My brain is fried trying to piece the puzzle together. And just think, it's only been a few weeks. We've still got a month and a half to go.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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one issue (variable?) would be that if we get past herman/jimbo, i can see the boosters making requirements of the HC (like you keep aranda, raymond, etc). fleck would have to be cool with that
Yeah, it's one of those things where he might be offended on principle, which i couldn't blame him for...at the same time i also have a hard time seeing someone objecting to keeping Dave Aranda.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
If he's not flexible on stuff like that, then do we really want him?
I mean we just got rid of a guy that was committed to "his guys" and it cost him his job. I want a guy that wants the best guys, not just "his guys"
I mean we just got rid of a guy that was committed to "his guys" and it cost him his job. I want a guy that wants the best guys, not just "his guys"
Posted on 10/18/16 at 2:53 pm to wildtigercat93
Well if i were a coach I would probably take the attitude that i know better than an administrator who good assistants are, and also wouldn't like being micromanaged right out of the gate.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well if i were a coach I would probably take the attitude that i know better than an administrator who good assistants are, and also wouldn't like being micromanaged right out of the gate.
Virtually every coach, including Herman and Jimbo, will be strongly encouraged to keep Aranda and certain recruiting guys.
PJ Fleck of all people isn't going to have a choice.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 3:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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PJ Fleck of all people isn't going to have a choice.
I think thats a safe assumption.
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