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I worry that Herman is the hot coach because of his talented QB. Without the QB, we may not notice him. Cam won it all for Auburn, where have they been since.

His QB at Texas St went from nobody before him, to 5th in the FCS version of the heisman with him. They went to their first ever playoffs

In his second year at Rice his QB had over 4800 total yards and 57 TDs, RIce won 10 games (first time since 1949).

In his 3 years at Iowa St his QB finished second in school history in passing and total offense. In his time there his 2009 season is the only time they have had a winning record the past 11 years.

Ohio State
Braxton Miller was Big Ten POY 2 years in a row with Herman. Miller's backup Guyton, when Miller was injured for parts of his final year, put up 750 pass yards, 330 rush yards, and 19 TDs. He completed damn near 69% of his passes, but only attempted 27 passes in his entire career beforehand. Miller had 3150 total yards and 36 TDs that same year. His 2 QBs that year combined for 4230 yards and 55 TDs.

His 2 DIFFERENT QBs the very next year, one being a redshirt freshman the other a guy that never really threw a pass before, put up 4930 yards and 53 TDs. His QB he recruited from Texas, JT Barrett, (who missed his senior year of HS with an injury) won Big Ten POY, and would have won the heisman had he not gotten injured before the Big Ten championship game.

The next year after he left OSU for Houston HC, those same 2 QBs under Urban put up 3325 total yards and 32 TDs. Even over a full 15 games it is still way behind what Herman did (3836 yards, 37 TDs).

The man is an offensive mastermind and can make chicken salad out of chicken shite. Doesn't really matter the QB, as long as he can run decent. That's what LSU needs with all these dual threats and option and spread offenses in Louisiana and Texas high schools.

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Posted by jman

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Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:45 pm to TigerChief10

Who cares what you think

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Posted by Datbayoubengal

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Posted on 11/25/16 at 9:57 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger

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Kevin Sumlin sure hasn't done well in his transition from Houston to Texas A & M. Who's to say Herman would be different?

1. Sumlin was never a QB coach (Kingsbury)
2. Sumlin never called plays (Kingsbury at Houston, Kevin Wilson at Oklahoma)
3. Sumlin took a team Art Briles went 10-4 and 8-4 the 2 previous years, and went 8-5 and then 10-4. He then had a losing season, and then finally had his big year. Levine took that team and went 5-7, 8-5, and 8-5. Herman went 13-1 year one. With damn near the same exact team as Levine, Herman boosted their total O from 58 to 20, and their scoring O from 60 to 10.
4. Sumlin didn't care about running the ball until last year, and didn't give a shite about defense.

Outside of being offensive minded and having success at Houston, they are nothing alike.

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Posted by Datbayoubengal

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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:07 pm to BengalBen

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Problem is you have no idea who will bring success to LSU. It's just a guess at this point. So tell me who we have that can run the zone read like Braxton Miller and Greg Ward Jr.?

Lindsey Scott is around the same height and actually much thicker than GWJr. He ran a spread/option offense in high school and is not only smart enough to get offers from Ivy leagues, he's very accurate and a more powerful runner that he looks. Hell even Narcisse has a legit shot in Herman's offense if he is healthy

Think about this, did you expect Saban and Kiffin to trot out a true freshman dual threat QB in a pro style offense? Did you expect him to be 2nd in the league in total offense (2971 to 2979) or 2nd in scoring (30 TDs to 32 TDs)?

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