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re: My god, the Arkansas message boards

Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:23 pm to
Recruiting to Georgia is almost as easy as recruiting to Alabama
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4777 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:29 pm to
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dilusion Is real


I doubt it. The delusion, maybe.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46476 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:30 pm to
Wanna know how I know you don't know how he recruited while at Arkansas?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45335 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:31 pm to
Another reality that must be taken into consideration...

O walking into his situation at LSU is not the same as Pittman walking into his situation at Arkansas.

To compare the hiring of Pittman to the hiring of O is unfair to Pittman in that very real context.

I’m not going to dog Arkansas; they are a fine program and an SEC school. However, I think it’s fair to say that it is harder to be successful at Arkansas than LSU and the current situation at Arkansas is much worse than the situation that existed at LSU when O was named HC.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
11708 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:32 pm to
If they wanted a Oline HC coach they should just came and got Matt Luke
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9258 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:34 pm to
Matt Luke sucks, Pittman doesn’t. Big difference. Pittman is an elite recruiter, Luke isn’t.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12511 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Wanna know how I know you don't know how he recruited while at Arkansas?




I was wondering this myself. How did he do there?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:37 pm to
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I was wondering this myself. How did he do there?


He had the online playing well, wasn't much talent left behind after he left, on paper recruited very well but high percentage of these 4*s were busts after he left.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9258 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:39 pm to
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on paper recruited very well but high percentage of these 4*s were busts after he left


Huh. Almost like the coaching after he left sucked? Weird how that works.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42353 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:43 pm to
These guys were on the bench with the suck that was on the field, so not sure what else you would call them.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12645 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:44 pm to
Newsflash! We don't really give a frick if other fan bases like this hire or not. You guys were ready to shite on whomever we hired.

Bottom line is this was the best guy we could hire and Pittman will fix our OL issues and toughen our team back up.

Bert was an expensive flop. Chad was the worst hire we've ever made. Auburn spent a fortune retaining Gus to grab 9 wins while the Aggies are paying Jimbo Fisher $7.5MM per season to get them 7 wins. I'm not going to melt about this one.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12956 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:46 pm to
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Call it what you want; but it’s the same exact type of hire that LSU made 3 years ago. We only laugh now, b/c in hindsight, O was a good hire that has seemed to work out.
Now that OU is in playoffs...

All 4 teams in playoffs have a HC that started as interim from in-house, 2 of them were never coordinators.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53775 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:47 pm to
O had HC experience though
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
2931 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:53 pm to
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Now, none of this means Pittman will fail. He may do well at Arkansas. But it is a big gamble.


Of course it’s risky. So are Kiffin and Norvell.

But when your down to names like Lunny and Butch Davis, Pittman doesn’t looks so bad.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9434 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:55 pm to
Fans are idiots. Anytime something is new with a fan base, a player, a coach, etc., it’s most of the time the greatest thing ever. Then the newness wears off and it’s life as normal. We did the same with Moorhead. No one knows if Pittman, Kiffin, Drinkwitz, etc. are going to suck or succeed. Let them have their fun.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45335 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 6:56 pm to
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Now that OU is in playoffs... All 4 teams in playoffs have a HC that started as interim from in-house, 2 of them were never coordinators.

Taking over:

Oklahoma from Bob Stoops

Ohio State from Urban Meyer

Clemson from Tommy Bowden

LSU from Les Miles

Is not the same as taking over Arkansas from Chad Morris.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12956 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Taking over:

Oklahoma from Bob Stoops

Ohio State from Urban Meyer

Clemson from Tommy Bowden

LSU from Les Miles

Is not the same as taking over Arkansas from Chad Morris.
No doubt. Just making the point that 'a name' doesn't mean diddly. Hot names make hot messes in my opinion. And what I stated was fact. The idea that they didn't go out and get 'a name' isn't going to define success or failure.

Yeah, the starting point for Pittman is terrible. But he's a good recruiter and that's what they need to even start getting out of their hole. Second thing is, splurge for the best DC and OC they can find country wide. You don't back the truck up for Gus, you back the truck up to get Lashlee to come back.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:06 pm to
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They are all saying how they love this hire and it’s a home run

Absolutely no one is saying that.
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:24 pm to
Tell me about Matt Luke's staff because I honestly don't know how it compared to Coach O and the way he's doing things
Posted by This Little Piggy
Member since Nov 2019
462 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:26 pm to
I'm trying to understand why you all feel you HAVE to frick up to learn. You can't learn simply from others and following their formula?

Thank God I didn't learn all my life lessons from frick ups.
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