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Les will be lionized by the media when
Posted on 12/13/07 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/13/07 at 10:50 am
he lives up to his word and remains at LSU, wins the NC and builds a football dynasty, and is compared to classless, characterless coaching pimps like Saban, Francioni, and Petrino. Integrity is the way to rule long term.
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Posted on 12/13/07 at 10:56 am to Cane Cutter
They will not even mention it. It would only make them look worse.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:00 am to tygerstripes
Integrity gets you nowhere in college football. Willingham has intergity look at how ND treated him. The only thing thats gets you anything is winning. Miles has integrity, but let him lose 5-6 two yrs in a row and see where he is. Hell, Solich has about as much integrity as one can have, the guy spent like 25 -30 yrs at Neb only to get canned after losing 3 games in a season.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:00 am to Cane Cutter
You are probably right except for the wee few media members who understand commitments and honor.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:09 am to Cane Cutter
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Integrity gets you nowhere in college football. Willingham has intergity look at how ND treated him. The only thing thats gets you anything is winning. Miles has integrity, but let him lose 5-6 two yrs in a row and see where he is. Hell, Solich has about as much integrity as one can have, the guy spent like 25 -30 yrs at Neb only to get canned after losing 3 games in a season.
Man, everything is setup in the coach's favor right now. Solich had integrity. Yes, he did. But, i wonder how much Nebraska paid him after they let him go. The schools are the ones getting screwed right now. they already pay coaches WAAAAY too much money as it is.
If a coach gets fired from a school, the school has to pay him the $$$. Like in Miles revised contract, if we fired him today, we would owe him $15 million. That's HUGE!!
Let's not use Mich as an example b/c of the buyout, but lets say if Miles left for Texas, he owes us $0. This system is in favor of the coaches. LSU would be screwed. It's absurd that college teams have gotten so desparate to win.
The schools need to swing this back our way using large buyouts to keep these coaches committed.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:11 am to tygerstripes
yup, your right, they will never mention. Sort of like no media outlets every report the good news that comes out of Iraq now. Ied's have almost ceased, iraqi's are taking over their own streets, our involvment is less by the day, but you'll never hear it. Too many media folks have their careers staked on our failure. Damn shame
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:16 am to MS TIGER
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Let's not use Mich as an example b/c of the buyout, but lets say if Miles left for Texas, he owes us $0. This system is in favor of the coaches. LSU would be screwed. It's absurd that college teams have gotten so desparate to win.
Not quite true, as far as I know.
Miles would owe us about $250,000 if he left for any job except Michigan, which is chump-change as far as a head coach's salary goes, but it's still more than him being able to walk away for free.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:19 am to teke184
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Miles would owe us about $250,000 if he left for any job except Michigan, which is chump-change as far as a head coach's salary goes, but it's still more than him being able to walk away for free.
Which is why i followed what i said up with this:
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The schools need to swing this back our way using large buyouts to keep these coaches committed.
These buyouts need to be huge. 250,000 is peanuts in coaching. Hell, if Bertman sneezed at his desk and his pen moved across the ledger, he could wipe out $250,000 without even missing it.
But i know he would miss it.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 11:19 am to teke184
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Let's not use Mich as an example b/c of the buyout, but lets say if Miles left for Texas, he owes us $0.
Not trying to be a smart arse, but he would owe us 500K for any job except Mich, which would be 1.25 million. I personally think it should be more, but he had the upper hand in negotiations. I think his main concern was compensation if he got fired, after all, he did back out of consideration for his long time dream job, and realizes how fickle fan bases/boosters can be.
This post was edited on 12/13/07 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/13/07 at 12:23 pm to cenla tigah
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Sort of like no media outlets every report the good news that comes out of Iraq now.
Damn liberals!!!
Posted on 12/13/07 at 12:27 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
-Sort of like no media outlets every report the good news that comes out of Iraq now.
-Damn liberals!!
YA - THE IRAQ WAR IS GOING JUST GREAT! ITS JUST ALL THE MEDIA'S FAULT! THE MEDIA IS MAKING 2007 THE DEADLIEST YEAR FOR US SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ!
-Damn liberals!!
YA - THE IRAQ WAR IS GOING JUST GREAT! ITS JUST ALL THE MEDIA'S FAULT! THE MEDIA IS MAKING 2007 THE DEADLIEST YEAR FOR US SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ!
Posted on 12/13/07 at 12:37 pm to lsujj2008
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Not trying to be a smart arse, but he would owe us 500K for any job except Mich, which would be 1.25 million.
This is comical...
Not trying to be a smart arse, to the guy not trying to be a smart arse....but actually, the penalty Miles would have to pay for any school other that UM is around $750,000 if I remember correctly.
Someone had posted Miles' actual contract earlier, it's an interesting read. If I can locate it, i'll post a link.
Added:
This "smart arse" stands corrected...
It is $500,000!
This LINK
is to his original contract, however, I think it's relatively unchanged except for a few 'minor" changes that have been reported.
This post was edited on 12/13/07 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/13/07 at 4:26 pm to Moots
The NCAA needs to take over college football and take it away from the schools. All the money should go to the NCAA and be evenly distributed to the schools based upon how much money they bring in, except the NCAA should dedicate the money to certain programs for each school, like baseball, basketball, etc. The NCAA could pay the players a stipen and legislate that coaches are to be paid a certain percentage of what the schools other faculty is paid.
The way it is now, we will end up with the Yankee/Red Sox/Tigers delima. It will end up being Notre Dame, Florida and Texas as the only superpowers in NCAA sports. Also, the NCAA could declare a National Champion and end all this playoff crap.
There, that's enough stuff for people to go off on me for about three hours.
The way it is now, we will end up with the Yankee/Red Sox/Tigers delima. It will end up being Notre Dame, Florida and Texas as the only superpowers in NCAA sports. Also, the NCAA could declare a National Champion and end all this playoff crap.
There, that's enough stuff for people to go off on me for about three hours.
Posted on 12/13/07 at 5:40 pm to Suntiger
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The NCAA needs to take over college football and take it away from the schools. All the money should go to the NCAA and be evenly distributed to the schools based upon how much money they bring in, except the NCAA should dedicate the money to certain programs for each school, like baseball, basketball, etc. The NCAA could pay the players a stipen and legislate that coaches are to be paid a certain percentage of what the schools other faculty is paid.
The way it is now, we will end up with the Yankee/Red Sox/Tigers delima. It will end up being Notre Dame, Florida and Texas as the only superpowers in NCAA sports. Also, the NCAA could declare a National Champion and end all this playoff crap.
There, that's enough stuff for people to go off on me for about three hours.
Hope this whole idea was just a bad joke...
In case you are serious, or anyone takes this serious..I'll make my rebuttal brief:
NCAA = part of the problem not the solution.
More "big government", no thanks!
Concerning pay...There are far fewer people capable of being a successful college coach then there are people capable of filling the "faculty" of any given institution.
This is America
, "coaches" like everyone else, should be paid what the market will bare. I'm done!
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