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re: Kragthorpe and Sanford and Fuente (Total Offense Rankings)

Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by Geaux Tahel
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Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10395 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:54 pm to
I can't imagine Sanford is really in the final two. He is a terrible OC. Terrible. I said I was happy with Miles staying as long as he got rid of Crowton, if he hires this tard my opinion on that will change.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6631 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 10:55 pm to
better start imagining
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22112 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:02 pm to
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So it was reported by Moscona on 104.5 espn

Does he hang out with Joe Schad?
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6631 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:05 pm to
He "hangs out" on a local sports radio talk show and has many connections.
This post was edited on 1/19/11 at 11:06 pm
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22346 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:28 pm to
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this is a mute point.


Seriously?
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 1/19/11 at 11:35 pm to
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Seriously?


Do you have a point?

Here's mine: If one is going to take into account the lack of talent on the coach's offense, then how do you not take into account the same lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball?
Posted by tigersandjets
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
734 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:09 am to
2004 BYU HC #58
2005 Oregon OC #22
2006 Oregon OC #13
2007 LSU OC #9
2008 LSU OC #51
2009 LSU OC #102
2010 LSU OC #81

Just for comparison.
Posted by tigersandjets
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
734 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:14 am to
TCU playing soft defenses in the WAC is balanced out by their poorer recruiting classes as a 'mid-major.' It's not like the Big East doesn't have their fair share of porous defenses.

All in all, I think total offense is an excellent indicator of an OC's performance, and Fuente is by far the best of these candidates.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22346 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:16 am to
quote:

Do you have a point?


I can't take anyone seriously when they don't know the difference between moot and mute.
Posted by LSUsaints87
West Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2010
44 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:18 am to
I always read comments of how miles will be calling the plays, miles wants a puppet for an oc, miles puts too much input in the offense. Just wondering, but where is the evidence of this? The style of offenses we ran with jimbo and crowton were completely different. Where does this perception stem from?
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22346 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:29 am to
quote:

I always read comments of how miles will be calling the plays, miles wants a puppet for an oc, miles puts too much input in the offense. Just wondering, but where is the evidence of this?


There is no evidence but this is a message board and people are going to speculate, right or wrong. I, for one, don't think he has as much influence on the Offense as some think.
Posted by tigersandjets
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
734 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:39 am to
Check this out:

Louisville (Total Offense)

2003 Bobby Petrino HC #5
2004 Bobby Petrino HC #1
2005 Bobby Petrino HC #6
2006 Bobby Petrino HC #3
2007 Steve Kragthorpe HC #6
2008 Steve Kragthorpe HC #45
2009 Steve Kragthorpe HC #91
2010 Charlie Strong HC #64

and

Tulsa (Total Offense)

2001 Keith Burns HC #78
2002 Keith Burns HC #105
2003 Steve Kragthorpe HC #51
2004 Steve Kragthorpe HC #73
2005 Steve Kragthorpe HC #39
2006 Steve Kragthorpe HC #24
2007 Todd Graham HC #1
2008 Todd Graham HC #1
2009 Todd Graham HC #35
2010 Todd Graham HC #5

also

TCU (Total Offense)

2007 Mike Schultz OC #64
2008 Mike Schultz OC, Justin Fuente RBs coach #24
2009 Justin Fuente Co-OC, QBs coach #7
2010 Justin Fuente Co-OC, QBs coach #12

Just the facts. Steve Kragthorpe's teams have better offenses when he is not coaching them.
This post was edited on 1/20/11 at 12:43 am
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2548 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:05 am to
I'd pass on both...I hope Miles is working on something else.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22346 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 1:07 am to
quote:

Just the facts. Steve Kragthorpe's teams have better offenses when he is not coaching them.



Cool. I'm looking forward to him coming here and not coaching.
Posted by gotygers
west St.Tammany
Member since Sep 2007
3016 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 4:49 am to
Krag took over a louiville team that had just beat ok in the orng bowl and had the intire off. returning.

Why is fuente no longer being considered?
Posted by A75CADDY
BatonRouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
312 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 8:43 am to
Minus Brian Brohm and most of the offensive line
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 8:44 am to
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I can't take anyone seriously when they don't know the difference between moot and mute.


Understood, excellent catch. For a minute there I thought you had a point to make about football on the football board. frickstick. or is it phuc stick?
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17875 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Krag took over a louiville team that had just beat ok in the orng bowl and had the intire off. returning.



worst. sentence. ever.
Posted by PetermanFanClub
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
310 posts
Posted on 1/20/11 at 7:58 pm to
good post tigersandjets
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