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If Kendall Briles Rumors are true

Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:05 am
Posted by PennyPacker
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:05 am
I sure as hell hope he is interviewed more thoroughly than Canada. I get that he works for Kiffin but, that is not full proof to me.

And will Briles' offense style fit what O wants. If memory serves me, Briles offense tends to put a lot of pressure on their own defense due to the pace it is run. And it's not always just as easy as slowing down the pace, the pace can be what makes the offense work.

All I am trying to say is I hope O is not shoving a square peg in a round hole again.
Posted by houstontyga
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:15 am to
Yaw yaw doesn’t know what the hell he wants
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:17 am to

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Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:45 am to
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Special Ed being a low-IQ ape
damn Carson
Posted by OGTiger
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 7:47 am to
Here’s hoping the Briles, Jr. rumors ARE true!
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:03 am to
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If memory serves me, Briles offense tends to put a lot of pressure on their own defense due to the pace it is run.

Dafuq does this mean? If the defense is successful, the other team punts.

If the offense can be expected to score quickly, why can’t the defense be held to the same standard - stopping quickly?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:15 am to
If we had an offense that could put points on the board, the defense wouldn't constantly be under pressure to play shutout ball every single game.
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:20 am to
Biggest myth on the Rant is that using tempo on offense tires out your own defense.

If you go three and out, it doesn’t matter if it takes 2 minutes or 5 minutes- your defense will get tired. You rest your defense by making first downs and moving the football.
Posted by misey94
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:26 am to
Running at a break-neck pace all the time with no thought CAN kill a defense. See Texas Tech and Auburn until a couple of years ago. Malzahn has learned to modulate his pace and it has worked wonders for his defense the last two and a half years.

No matter what offensive system you run, you have to find the right balance. Running ball control and not establishing a rhythm and scoring at every opportunity puts pressure on a defense, as well. We are very familiar with the latter.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:26 am to
The problem is when you're playing from behind and your own team goes three-and-out
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:29 am to
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I hope O isn't shoving a square peg in a round hole again


Our insiders are hinting that O isn't calling the shots on this one. Allegedly O is ready, right now, to give the job to Ensminger (who apparently still isn't interested in full-time OC duties). Alleva is making the strong suggestion and the push to go after our main target (presumably KB) because he's having to overrule O's desire to deviate from the promises he made when he took the HC job.

I know, I know... "Alleva is a moron, idiot, yadda yadda, rabble rabble rabble." And I agree fully. But as of last night it seems Alleva may be our saving grace on this abortion of an OC saga. Alleva also deserves some credit for getting LSU to take action to sweeten the pot for Aranda to beat a7m back off our door step. I don't like the guy but he's doing some things right at this time, it would seem.

As for your point in the OP... It would seem that O is just going to have to put his ego aside and let an OC do his job. Miles had full control over his program. Alleva and the brass couldn't influence him, so they had to fire him when he refused to change. O, on the other hand, is damn lucky to be the HC and he knows it. So he's going to have to have a top-tier OC that isn't just a "yes-man" (like he originally promised) or he's gonna have to get steppin. Alleva isn't wanting to lose his job because of Orgeron, so he's taking matters into his own hands. It's what we've become, and it is what it is for better or for worse.
Posted by Willie Stroker
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:31 am to
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If we had an offense that could put points on the board, the defense wouldn't constantly be under pressure to play shutout ball every single game.

Right. Basically the opposite of what Penny was trying to say.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:35 am to
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Our insiders are hinting that O isn't calling the shots on this one. Allegedly O is ready, right now, to give the job to Ensminger (who apparently still isn't interested in full-time OC duties). Alleva is making the strong suggestion and the push to go after our main target (presumably KB) because he's having to overrule O's desire to deviate from the promises he made when he took the HC job.


Um............wow. Kind of in trouble if true. How long does Orgeron play nice with Briles if he isn't his guy?
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:47 am to
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Alleva is making the strong suggestion and the push to go after our main target (presumably KB) because he's having to overrule O's desire to deviate from the promises he made when he took the HC job.


Good luck on that one!

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O, on the other hand, is damn lucky to be the HC and he knows it. So he's going to have to have a top-tier OC that isn't just a "yes-man" (like he originally promised) or he's gonna have to get steppin.


O has to have the "yes men" to blame in order to keep the heat off of his own arse.

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Alleva isn't wanting to lose his job because of Orgeron, so he's taking matters into his own hands.


Alleva did this to himself and LSU so needs no pity.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by dos crystal
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:52 am to
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Allegedly O is ready, right now, to give the job to Ensminger (who apparently still isn't interested in full-time OC duties). Alleva is making the strong suggestion and the push to go after our main target (presumably KB) because he's having to overrule O's desire to deviate from the promises he made when he took the HC job.


This is a recipe for disaster. This is no different than O over ruling Canada.

There is a structure in business, administration, and organizations. If They are not aligned with the same vision it's usually disaster. When your A.D. is having to tell the h.c. who to hire, what kind of offense to run, etc. then there is a MAJOR PROBLEM.

At this point, it's just inevitable. Just like Canada, if they aren't meshing, might as well cut bait. At this point, it's been a charade for 3 years. It's time to clean house and rebuild a championship administration and coaching staff.

This isn't on O. He sold himself for the Job. J.A. bought it and was fooled. We don't need fools running our athletic department.
Posted by tonydtiger
Central Mississippi
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:12 am to
Man, if this is all true it sounds like we are in deep do-do! O is trying to give the OC job to someone who doesn't want it simply because he can manipulate it and O's boss is trying to hire an OC FOR his head coach. That's one screwed up situation there! If this thing doesn't crash and burn it will be a frickin miracle! Sounds like O had better go back and study his binder if he wants to keep his job and not run a good football program right onto the ground!
Posted by PennyPacker
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:15 am to
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Dafuq does this mean


it means if you look at all the defenses that were under Briles' style of offense, they gave up a lot of points.

fast pace, quick strike offenses have the potential to wear out good defenses; especially when playing a physical team with a good defense.

People have been saying this about the Big 12 for years. High scoring fast pace offenses and the defenses appear to be crap. They win a lot of games and it is fun to watch, but how many championships do they win?

This is not a knock on Briles, but if his style conflicts with O then the drama will continue.



Posted by LSU4Life12
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:16 am to
I see exactly what you're saying now. Makes alot of sense actually. I can agree with this
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:18 am to
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Our insiders are hinting that O isn't calling the shots on this one. Allegedly O is ready, right now, to give the job to Ensminger (who apparently still isn't interested in full-time OC duties). Alleva is making the strong suggestion and the push to go after our main target (presumably KB) because he's having to overrule O's desire to deviate from the promises he made when he took the HC job.


This is completely untrue and total bullshite.
Posted by PennyPacker
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:22 am to
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Allegedly O is ready, right now, to give the job to Ensminger


VERY CONCERNING!

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It would seem that O is just going to have to put his ego aside and let an OC do his job


I really don't see this happening. Most head coaches are too head strong for that and our head coach comes off extremely head strong and too unprofessional to put his ego aside. "I am the head coach and we will run what I want"...

I want O to be successful b/c that means LSU is successful, but watching an individual handle adversity says so much about that person as a leader. While O might be a great guy, the way he reacts when pressure is high makes me believe he is not the answer. I really hope I am wrong and I hope he makes me eat my words.
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