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re: If it is Haley, can we blame Alleva and not Miles?

Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:41 pm to
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But, I definitely like the admins and BOS standing firm against Miles, keeping him accountable for the highest paid staff in the land without results.


This is completely asinine if true. It was known all along that 15,16 would be our money years. No one with half a brain thought we would set the world on fire this year, in fact the strides the defense made were incredible.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:42 pm to
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The kids you are trying to sign, will not sign if you fire or jerk around the guys you send out to recruit them. This isn't rocket science.

National signing day is in February.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22325 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:49 pm to
There is NO excuse for having defensive staff sign extensions prior to your coordinator.

Even Chavis recruited to the bitter end knowing he was leaving. The staff would not have treated recruits any differently waiting on Chavis to sign.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Chavis recruited to the bitter end knowing he was leaving.


No I'd blame Les if its Brick, his criteria for this hire is fricking awful and seems to be finding excuses to just give it to Brick.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:54 pm to
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his criteria for this hire is fricking awful and seems to be finding excuses to just give it to Brick.



don't believe everything you read on the tRant
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:55 pm to
Both.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22325 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 1:59 pm to
You are talking 2014, and I am talking career.

Defense definitely looked to be a strength coming into next season, but I don't know if I'm ready to say Chavis was a large part of that. And I think our results defensively in 2015 will bear this out.

Miles' inability to identify and develop the QB position will be his downfall. He has overcome the clock management issues amongst other things.

And it's a shame, because all he really needed was a serviceable one every three or four recruiting classes.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22325 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:01 pm to
You're right.

Recruited may be a bit strong, but he did tell the Ugo kid he would be here the morning of the bowl game before he committed. Lol
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2224 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:10 pm to
I'm starting to think that Brick at DC and BeBe backfilling at DL is the back-up plan. That scenario has no hurdles and could happen very quickly. While I'd prefer Shoop at DC, I do think that the combination of Brick/BeBe would be very strong on the recruiting side. No doubt an upgrade on that front.

From a scheme/strategy perspective, Brick learned all that he could from Chavis over the past 6 years. He's been on the receiving end of the play calling and I'd guess that he had some input on the strategy. Brick also had prior DC experience where he certainly had to overcome a talent gap while at Baylor. With Brick at DC we would probably see 90% of what we saw with Chavis. If someone were to tell me that Brick was asking Chavis "WTF are you doing" at the end of this years Bama game, I'd feel good about him at DC.

For those that complain about Les' hard head, I'd say that Chavis was right up there with him. Maybe Brick doesn't suffer from the same iron head syndrome.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15182 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:11 pm to
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If it is Haley, can we blame Alleva and not Miles?


If it is Shoop, will you go away?
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15182 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:12 pm to
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his criteria for this hire is fricking awful


What criteria? The ones that some Chicken Little on this board made up out of thin air because they are impatient shits and can't wait a fricking week for a replacement to be named before jumping off of a bridge?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15182 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:13 pm to
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the strides the defense made were incredible.


Overstated. This defense was really not that good when you look at yards per play and scoring per drive. The fact that the offense ground away and ate up clock definitely made for deceptive defensive stats.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Don't see how you can blame him for Miles not hiring a good DC with top 10 DC money to work with.


The Alleva hate is misplaced.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:22 pm to
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With Brick at DC we would probably see 90% of what we saw with Chavis.


This was the thinking when he promoted the first 2 jackasses after Bo left. "They've learned plenty and can keep the D playing on the same level." Sorry Les places way too much emphasis on D to roll the dice like this again.
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1649 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:36 pm to
Yes.

He has jumped the gun on the contract extension for not only this year's crew, but also Miles a couple of years ago. Has really put us behind a financial 8 ball when it comes to buying out Miles and paying off the old staff.

So who suffers due to his incompetence? The fans, supporters, players and potential new coaches that we couldn't afford because he made his bed with the incumbents who are looking more and more that they should be replaced.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10919 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:51 pm to
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There's plenty of blame to go around. Promoting brick to DC reeks of desperation.
The majority of the LSU Nstion will NOT accept this hire, IF it were to go down.

Miles is already on thin ice with fans that actually matter. (Season ticket holders, Power Brokers, Alums, Fans that attend all games) Alleva as well.

Ole Joe could have done the Ole Jim Mora thing (Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda) with the negligent and grossly overpaid women's basketball coach by slashing $500,000 off her salary and either given it to Chavis or put it in the $$$$$$ pool for the new DC.

No time right now to get cheap and pull a Joe Dean/Skip Bertman "Cheap" hire.

A few scattered cheerleading message board Pumps will be Ok/Fine with that, but nobody else will.

TigerTanic Co-Captain's Les and Joe need to check the teletype because they are on course to hit that big iceberg. And, yall know what happens once the hull is ruptured and water starts flooding in. It can't be stopped and the ship will eventually sink. Just a matter of time!

Geaux Shoop Geaux. Save the Ship!


Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:57 pm to
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The fact that the offense ground away and ate up clock definitely made for deceptive defensive stats.


Did Bama gash us running the ball like Wisconsin, Mississippi St., Auburn?

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Brick also had prior DC experience where he certainly had to overcome a talent gap while at Baylor.


Yea, and they sucked. Shoop has turned chicken shite into chicken salad at Penn St.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 2:58 pm to
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If it is Shoops, will you go away?


Who?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15182 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:00 pm to
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Who?


You really got me. Shoop.

The question remains, if Shoop, will you ban yourself and just go whine to your parents instead?
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2224 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:22 pm to
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This was the thinking when he promoted the first 2 jackasses after Bo left. "They've learned plenty and can keep the D playing on the same level." Sorry Les places way too much emphasis on D to roll the dice like this again.


It would be a gamble...no doubt about that. Any DC is a gamble to some extent. aTm is gambling on a guy that was well suited for a TOP offense and is being judged based on the talent that he had at LSU. Both of those factors are about to change for him. Like I said, based on the candidates, I'd put my money on Shoop and BeBe would be the cherry on top.
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