I hope the O experiment is a complete success.....

False early success would be making the playoff and then going 4-8 the next year.

Are you even a fan?

I agree with this completely. He is an experiment.... a huge risk taken by our idiot AD. With that said, I hope O exceeds our wildest dreams in terms of success!!

But decisions like this are made with short leashes in mind. Still having trouble believing that damned AD did such a risky move.

Yep. That's just the reality of the business with some of the higher risk, experimental hires. Helfrich got fired at Oregon after one bad season (granted it was a 4-8 season). Helton was on the hot seat earlier this year. LSU hired O with basically no buyout, so I imagine he's on a short leash.

Realistically it would probably be hard for LSU to fire O with 5 losses in one season. That's kind of a debatable area. But one bad Helfrich type year and I believe he's gone.

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Disagree, 5 loses or more and he should be immediately gone along with that worthless AD.

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I'm not saying he shouldn't be, but it would be difficult, IMO. It may depend on what he did the year before.

Alleva needs to be gone regardless, IMO.

I fear that his coordinators will simply keep him afloat for a while as he racks up 4 loss seasons then one will leave and we will have a really bad season that gets him fired. Problem is we just wasted 3-4 years in a stupid hire.

U are a joke

4 losses should get him canned. We consistently did that or better with Les. Coach O shouldn't get a pass because hes new. His sales job was a revamped offense to complement the D.

If he does worse than Miles, even in year 1. Gotta go

Next year's SEC schedule has an extra road game but there are four cupcake games OOC giving Orgeron a very fast start towards an 8 win season with a 4-4 SEC record. That really would not be a great outcome compared to even this year - because we had two fewer cupcakes OOC with Wisky and the loss of a filler OOC game because of the Florida rescheduling.

So 8-4 next year really would be at least a game worse than this year's pretty disappointing results. I am expecting people to find ways to argue that point but that's just the danger of this kind of emotional, rather than qualification based, hire.

I agree RE the excuses but I'm actually expecting a very solid, Sumlin type, start to the season. There are, after all, no challenging OOC opponents and our better SEC opponents come in the last half of the schedule as a rule.

We can expect tons of O positives all over TR and the SEC rant for the first 6 or 7 games. I don't think the realization of a bad season will hit many - even if LSU finished with 4 plus losses. They love them some O and it took the aggies years to be skeptical of fast starts that finished cold.