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G5 coaches who did and didn't carry over success at the P5 level in the modern era
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:15 pm
Can you name anyone not on this list. Not trying to be sarcastic, am just curious. To be clear, I am referring to head coaches who were successful head coaches at a Group of 5 school and later went on to become a head coach of a Power 5 school.
I can think of few successful ones quickly:
1) Nick who started off at Toledo before going to the NFL, then later returning to college via Michigan State;
2) Urban who started off at Bowling Green before going to Utah.
3) Brian Kelly, Central Michigan and Cincinnati before Notre Dame (who is considered a P5).
4) Art Briles, Houston before Baylor
Also after researching
5) Jim Tressel, Youngstown State before Ohio State
6) I guess you can say Bobby Petrino?
ETA: 7) Chris Peterson
Not as successful:
1. Tom Herman
2. Charlie Strong
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Scott Frost
5. Gary Pinkel
6. Butch Jones
Others?
I can think of few successful ones quickly:
1) Nick who started off at Toledo before going to the NFL, then later returning to college via Michigan State;
2) Urban who started off at Bowling Green before going to Utah.
3) Brian Kelly, Central Michigan and Cincinnati before Notre Dame (who is considered a P5).
4) Art Briles, Houston before Baylor
Also after researching
5) Jim Tressel, Youngstown State before Ohio State
6) I guess you can say Bobby Petrino?
ETA: 7) Chris Peterson
Not as successful:
1. Tom Herman
2. Charlie Strong
3. Kevin Sumlin
4. Scott Frost
5. Gary Pinkel
6. Butch Jones
Others?
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:20 pm to jbraua
Quit beating around the bush and get to the point!
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:22 pm to jbraua
Is this your Beta way of saying you don’t like Napier???
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:53 pm to HooDooWitch
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Quit beating around the bush and get to the point!
I guess my point is hiring a G5 could go either way?
Posted on 10/22/21 at 3:59 pm to jbraua
Urban Meyer put Utah on the map, when he was there they were still G5.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:19 pm to jbraua
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Not as successful:
5. Gary Pinkel
In all fairness, Pinkel is the winningest coach in Missouri history (total wins and winning percentage). He also led Mizzou to two top 5 finishes in 2007 & 2013. By their standards, he was pretty successful. While we do it at LSU, "Success" is relative and isn't measurement purely in championships at many programs.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:26 pm to jbraua
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5. Gary Pinkel
Gary Pinkel has the highest winning percentage in Missouri history. I think he was very successful based on what should be Missouri’s standards.
Mack Brown coached at Tulane and App State for a bit.
Willie Taggart and Sonny Dykes stick out on the unsuccessful side.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:35 pm to jbraua
Matt Campbell started at Toledo.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:55 pm to jbraua
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Not as successful
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Gary Pinkel
How many SEC championships has Mizzou been to since he left?
Edit: didn’t check to see if other people had pointed this out, my bad. Pinkel was a damn good coach.
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/22/21 at 4:57 pm to jbraua
All you can have is one really successful HC at a time. And logically there aren't a high percentage of successful college coaches with respect to the CFP or winning a National Championship. So it going to be someone new added to the equation that has all the qualities necessary to build and maintain that type of program not named Saban, Sweeney, Riley, or Day (even Fisher or Kelly).
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:10 pm to jbraua
Does anyone remember any Sun Belt Conference coaches that went to a major P5 program and were immediately successful?
Malzahn went from ArkSt to Auburn, but I don't know if he goes in the successful or not successful list. He did get to a National Championship Game, but just 1 SEC title in 7 years, in his first year though... Kinda meh, but not a bust.
Malzahn went from ArkSt to Auburn, but I don't know if he goes in the successful or not successful list. He did get to a National Championship Game, but just 1 SEC title in 7 years, in his first year though... Kinda meh, but not a bust.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:13 pm to jbraua
You could add Derek Dooley to the unsuccessful list but he wasn't really that successful at La Tech.
Al Golden flopped at Miami.
Willie Taggart, one mediocre season at Oregon before he flopped at Florida State.
Not sure where you'd put Gus Malzahn. He had a few good seasons at Auburn, even played in the NCG his first year.
Al Golden flopped at Miami.
Willie Taggart, one mediocre season at Oregon before he flopped at Florida State.
Not sure where you'd put Gus Malzahn. He had a few good seasons at Auburn, even played in the NCG his first year.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:19 pm to Gold Member
Harsin, Auburn.
One year at ArkSt (followed Malzahn), decent run at Boise State.
Not a great start at Auburn, but it's year 1. Recruiting isn't going so good; I give him three years and done.
One year at ArkSt (followed Malzahn), decent run at Boise State.
Not a great start at Auburn, but it's year 1. Recruiting isn't going so good; I give him three years and done.
Posted on 10/22/21 at 5:22 pm to jrodLSUke
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Sun Belt Conference coaches that went to a major P5 program and were immediately successful?
Hugh Freeze. Did about as well as you can at Ole Miss.
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