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re: Can someone explain Strong over Franklin
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:00 pm to Forkbeard3777
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:00 pm to Forkbeard3777
James Franklin's success is mostly based on a bunch of historical powers falling off a cliff. Sure, he's doing well for Vandy. He still hasn't won anything or beaten a legitimately good team. I'll be pissed if the Titans hire him.
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:05 pm to Chicken
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well, I think they went 7-6 in each of Strong's first two years...
True, but then 11-2, 12-1. Isn't 7-6 better than 4-8 the last season before he was hired?
The last two records is why I said earlier that he caught lightening in a bottle getting Bridgewater.
Would have loved to see what he would have done at UL post Bridgewater. May also explain why he left...
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:07 pm to ohiovol
I think Franklin is getting way to much credit. It wasn't very long ago he was sucking it up as an OC at Maryland and K State
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:26 pm to Sevendust912
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I think Franklin is getting way to much credit. It wasn't very long ago he was sucking it up as an OC at Maryland and K State
How can you not give him a lot of credit? He coaches at Vandy and has gone 9-4 in consecutive seasons, and won 2 bowl games. Should have gone to a better bowl than the BBVA this year.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:36 pm to kywildcatfanone
He covered up a rape 
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:59 pm to Sevendust912
People can try to downplay Franklin's success all they want, but he's having unprecedented success at Vandy! It's never been done before.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:18 pm to Sevendust912
Proof? Link? Anything at all to back up this assertion?
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:29 pm to Chicken
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this is a stretch...
I don't think so. It's a fair statement.
Texas made a good hire.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:30 pm to Vandyrone
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Proof? Link? Anything at all to back up this assertion?
Just heard through the grapevine. No need to shoot the messenger. If you know the story, would you mind sharing?
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:34 pm to Sevendust912
No shooting, just asking. CJF has already been publicly cleared of any wrong doing by the DA. This happened months ago.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:43 pm to Vandyrone
Has James Franklin won more than 2 games against ranked teams? I'd bet he has. Guess who hasn't? Charlie Strong.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:44 pm to Bho
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Has James Franklin won more than 2 games against ranked teams?
Nope. All I've got is UGA this year.
He is nothing special. Texas hiring him would have been a disaster of Dooleyesque proportions.
Franklin has done a nice job energizing the fan base and in recruiting. He still hasnt proven much besides Vandy can be Mississippi State- to be sure a huge step from where that program has been.
Vandys success, while lovely for them, boils down to 2 factors:
1) they finally started scheduling rent a wins to get bowl eligibility
2) very weak East- historic nadir for UT, UF's worst stretch in 30 years, Richt losing control of everything. When SC has been the best team in that division over the last 4 years, something terrible is going on.
Strong isn't a home run or anything, but I take him every time over Franklin
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:45 pm to Sevendust912
Franklin is a very average X and O guy, but a phenomenal recruiter and politician.
Strong has more experience at the highest levels, very respected D coordinator, and also a very good recruiter.
He also isn't a liability in the press.
Strong has more experience at the highest levels, very respected D coordinator, and also a very good recruiter.
He also isn't a liability in the press.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:17 am to TheCaterpillar
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Franklin is a very average X and O guy, but a phenomenal recruiter and politician.
Yep, and Texas just got rid of a guy with those same traits. Clear change of direction.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:20 am to Sevendust912
quote:Has more to do with the HC than anything.
I think Franklin is getting way to much credit. It wasn't very long ago he was sucking it up as an OC at Maryland and K State
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:16 am to Forkbeard3777
Strong
Franklin
Franklin
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:21 am to WPBTiger
They hired the better football coach.
I don't get the a Franklin hype, he's done a good job but the East is weak and he's a loose cannon.
Those guys that rely on rah-rah emotion usually end up getting exposed.
I don't get the a Franklin hype, he's done a good job but the East is weak and he's a loose cannon.
Those guys that rely on rah-rah emotion usually end up getting exposed.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:42 am to PorkSammich
quote:This is false and calling the East weak is a bit of joke. Sure Tennessee isn't an elite program. But, UGA,USCe,UF & now Mizzou are difficult to deal with in that division.
I don't get the a Franklin hype, he's done a good job but the East is weak and he's a loose cannon.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:49 am to PorkSammich
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Those guys that rely on rah-rah emotion usually end up getting exposed.
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