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BigXII expansion decision coming Monday (Herman)

Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:14 am
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:14 am
Obviously this will have some impact on Tom Herman's decision, to what degree, is anyone's guess

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Sources confirmed Wednesday that pretty much all the options are on the table, including the possibility of football-only membership with Houston and BYU the most likely members. The sources also confirmed that expansion has gone from likelihood about six weeks ago to maybe a 1-in-3 chance


Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50777 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:21 am to
This is going to be fun
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:34 am to
I predicted no expansion.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127411 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:39 am to
Forgot about this.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:44 am to
I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51613 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 11:52 am to
They'll just announce they're staying at 10 teams.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6865 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:03 pm to
UT knows that Houston getting in the Big 12 will make Herman more expensive... so UH doesn't get in. At the very least they will decide not to decide this year.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4344 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:14 pm to
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UT knows that Houston getting in the Big 12 will make Herman more expensive... so UH doesn't get in. At the very least they will decide not to decide this year.


Agree Texas has to be smart about it and either reject UH or postpone it until after they hire Herman.
Posted by bret75
Tavares, FL
Member since Sep 2016
145 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:39 pm to
This whole thing just seems weird. I've been trying to follow it for the past 3 months or so.

It appears to have gone from, "We are going to expand. We just don't know if it will be 12 or 14 or 16 and we don't know which teams we will add. But, we are expanding" to "Well, we might expand, but more likely, we won't."

Just my hunch, but I think the main reason for the change is BYU. I suspect that BYU was a lock and they were deciding on the other team or teams and the the LGBT community got involved and several schools are concerned about the PC backlash they will get if they invite BYU.

Just my hunch, again, but I suspect that there is hardball being played (by OU?) saying, "If you don't take BYU, we aren't voting for anybody.

I also suspect that the TX political machine (state government, not university) has gotten invovled and is demanding Houston be one of the schools.

It could be that there are two factions in the conference, one faction wanting Houston and not BYU and the other faction demanding BYU or nothing.

Will be interesting to see what happens next Monday.

But, whatever happens, Tom Herman is about to get a huge pay raise come December. LSU, TX or somebody is gonna back the Brink's trucks (plural) up to his garage.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:52 pm to
I think Herman is gone regardless of what happens here.

You aren't dropping games to Navy at UT or LSU.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:06 pm to
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ou aren't dropping games to Navy at UT or LSU


Saban coached teams have lost home games to UAB(LSU) and ULM(Bama).
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6126 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:07 pm to
Correct. Herman's not staying at Houston just because they get into the Big 12.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:13 pm to
he gets 5 mill if they expand
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9581 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

he gets 5 mill if they expand


just one time.. and you dont think a booster can match that donation youre crazy...you are still getting your arse handed to you everygame because youre in a better conference, its easy to get up for one or two games and play the underdog role.. its the only thing that makes me nervous about him..
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:24 pm to
Along with any expansion, I imagine the Big 12 schools want all the schools to extend the GOR. It appears Oklahoma and Texas are hesitant to extend their GOR, making the other schools suspicious of them.

My guess is that the two schools want to keep their options open.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

he gets 5 mill if they expand

$5M one time bonus and a $2.5M annual salary increase to $5.5M. If Houston gets in, then it's going to take $6M+ per year to lure him away. Shouldn't be a problem for Texas or LSU or USC, but that's a lot of jack for a guy with soon to be 2 years of coaching experience and loses to Uconn and Navy.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5621 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:53 pm to
i dont think that is correct bama
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:58 pm to
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i dont think that is correct bama


Yeah. It's actually that the $5M bonus is paid in 2 years of $2.5M, which would make his salary in those two years $5.5M. It isn't a bonus AND the increase.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 3:32 pm to
IMO, the opportunity to coach at an elite school, in the SEC, with a wealth of recruits to pick from would trump being at Houston and in the Big 12. I don't buy for a minute that his decision to stay is contingent on Houston making it into the Big 12. I know he has money tied to it but the amount of money he can make long term in the SEC is worth leaving 5mil on the table.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 3:36 pm to
If it gets denied and we get Herman, my dick is going to get quite an expansion.
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