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re: Any other LSU fans think Saban to Texas is not a good thing for LSU?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:05 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:05 am to Prominentwon
I'm in the minority about not thinking Saban will be coaching much longer (2-3 years from retirement) & he is delegating much more at this point in his career than he did at any other stop especially to Kirby & even with things as important as staff hires, & examples are Napier (who's been KILLING it) & taking back Lance Thompson, both good friends of Kirby
Bama will still be fine with Kirby UA was still prominent before Saban & will continue
Bama will still be fine with Kirby UA was still prominent before Saban & will continue
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 10:09 am
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:07 am to BuccWildBammer
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Kids wouldn't go to Alabama if he wasn't there, IMO
He mostly means LA kids, I think
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:08 am to BuccWildBammer
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Bama will still be fine with Kirby, the UA was still prominent before Saban & will continue
Fine? Sure. Dominant like they are now? Nah.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:08 am to bwallcubfan
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Plus, we wouldn't have to play him every year.
Yeah, but with the playoff system, it's reasonable to speculate the road to an National Championship would likely go through Saban often.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:09 am to Prominentwon
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Kids wouldn't go to Alabama if he wasn't there, IMO.
I concur... in fact if Saban does haul arse to TX I bet I know a couple of NELA recruits who might be newly uncommitted.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:09 am to Hugo Stiglitz
other than not playing having to play him every year, yeah, it would be horrible for LSU and for the rest of college football.
With how weak the Big 12 is, he would have an even easier path to the NC every year
and he would get all the top Texas kids, and still poach some top LA talent
With how weak the Big 12 is, he would have an even easier path to the NC every year
and he would get all the top Texas kids, and still poach some top LA talent
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:10 am to Prominentwon
Prom I mean the 5 stars in Tx, LSU wouldn't get any
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yeah, but with the playoff system, it's reasonable to speculate the road to an National Championship would likely go through Saban often.
At least we'd still get our shot and not be out of it early on
Like Bucc said, I don't see him coaching much longer, so I'd feel better if he was out of the SEC.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
1. He can only sign 25 a year, give or take a few. There are is an absurd amount of talent in TX, and he can't get them all. If UT and A&M get every single Texas recruit they want, there are still tons of great players available.
2. He won't be as motivated to poach LA, because of the talent in his own backyard, and LSU won't be a conference rival anymore. It's more to his benefit to steal a recruit from Baylor or OU.
3. We wouldn't play him in the regular season any more. Whoever replaces him at Bama won't be any better, and will almost surely be a step down.
4. For the posters who say "he gets anybody he wants in LA," that is objectively false. He whiffs on more than he gets. He will whiff on more than he gets this year.
2. He won't be as motivated to poach LA, because of the talent in his own backyard, and LSU won't be a conference rival anymore. It's more to his benefit to steal a recruit from Baylor or OU.
3. We wouldn't play him in the regular season any more. Whoever replaces him at Bama won't be any better, and will almost surely be a step down.
4. For the posters who say "he gets anybody he wants in LA," that is objectively false. He whiffs on more than he gets. He will whiff on more than he gets this year.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:12 am to GetmorewithLes
Again playing devil's advocate, some LSU commits would as well
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:12 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I'm concerned with Saban at Texas as well to be honest with regards to recruiting tbh
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:14 am to Hugo Stiglitz
It only takes one bad hire to destroy all that he built at BAMA. Most people don't understand how delicate a football program can be.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:15 am to tiger perry
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I'm concerned with Saban at Texas as well to be honest with regards to recruiting tbh
We're no worse off with him at TX than at Bama, and we don't have to play him every year.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:16 am to Jim Rockford
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We're no worse off with him at TX than at Bama
LSU gets a lot of Texas recruits, and with Texas being down right now, it's certainly helps
you don't think if Saban brought Texas back to winning, that LSU's Texas recruiting would suffer?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:17 am to Bear Is Dead
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It only takes one bad hire to destroy all that he built at BAMA. Most people don't understand how delicate a football program can be.
So true. Everyone said USC would not miss a beat because of their recruiting when Carroll left. They had like 7-8 5* in one class.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:17 am to Bear Is Dead
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It only takes one bad hire to destroy all that he built at BAMA. Most people don't understand how delicate a football program can be.
Exactly. Even a seemingly slam dunk hire is not guaranteed. You can't project with 100% accuracy that a guy will win at his next job, no matter what the resume. Hell, Saban might well flop at UT. It's a crapshoot. You want your rivals to change coaches as often as possible. Lack of continuity is a program killer.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:19 am to Prominentwon
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Kids wouldn't go to Alabama if he wasn't there, IMO.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:21 am to Hugo Stiglitz
A strong Texas will sign 20 kids a year out of Texas. No need to dip into Louisiana as much as he is now.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:21 am to Jim Rockford
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It only takes one bad hire to destroy all that he built at BAMA. Most people don't understand how delicate a football program can be.
Exactly. Even a seemingly slam dunk hire is not guaranteed. You can't project with 100% accuracy that a guy will win at his next job, no matter what the resume. Hell, Saban might well flop at UT. It's a crapshoot. You want your rivals to change coaches as often as possible. Lack of continuity is a program killer.
While this is all true, Saban has built as solid a foundation of a program possible here at LSU and at Alabama. Yeah, some dickhead hire could frick it up but I think it's more likely Alabama will continue to be a premier program post Saban.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 10:22 am to BuccWildBammer
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Bama will still be fine with Kirby UA
Maybe so, but you may want to keep in the back of your mind of the success, or the lack thereof, of recent Saban disciples.
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