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re: What has Hannagriff said today

Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:45 pm to
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Do you know what crawfishin means? If this isn't the guy Charlie was talking about, all he has to do is say it's someone else.
yes, i do.

to make it simpler for you, I'm saying that Hanny backpedaled on his earlier comments in several ways -- one of which is to now claim that what he meant by the candidate "still coaching" is that he coached this year. No, Charlie, you meant that he was still actively coaching at the time, either NFL or college playoffs. That was obvious. Otherwise, it's redundant with your other comment that the guy "was a DC in 2014".

For him to now say he meant the answer the other way is to imply either (1) Charlie's communication and comprehension skills are worse than we thought, or (2) he be crawfishin'.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:48 pm to
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In the huddle, Charlie said many believe Saban runs the entire defense there and might consider Smart a puppet.





Remember, that when Charles made his comments, ALL signs were pointing to Haley being promoted.

It's absurd to think that Charlie, after melting down the day before, would have been making the case that the fan base needed to ignore the name and focus on the resume in relation to Smart.

If the news had broken on Friday that Smart was the guy and the hire had been made, it would have been viewed as a home run.

Even now, it would go down as a huge hire. It's just a bit different now given that you have a bunch of idiots who are expecting us to land an NFL DC who is waiting for his team to lose in the playoffs.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:49 pm to
No. It's not redundant to clarify what the guys position was. That is why he said he was a DC. You guys are losing it with all these theories

It makes perfect sense that Hanny was talking about Smart. Fits the description perfectly.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:51 pm to
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It's absurd to think that Charlie, after melting down the day before, would have been making the case that the fan base needed to ignore the name and focus on the resume in relation to Smart.



No, it makes sense. Especially given the hate he and most of us have for Bama and given the fact that most have always assumed it's not Smart's Defense, it is Saban's.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:52 pm to
I'm just relaying the information. I have no dog in the hunt.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:54 pm to
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No, it makes sense. Especially given the hate he and most of us have for Bama and given the fact that most have always assumed it's not Smart's Defense, it is Saban's.



This is ridiculous.

So, two weeks after the board melting down over losing a DC to a rival western division foe, the same board would not have viewed LSU stealing the DC (who is universally viewed to be in line for a HC job in the SEC in the near future) from Alafrickingbama?

No fricking way.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:57 pm to
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the same board would not have viewed LSU stealing the DC (who is universally viewed to be in line for a HC job in the SEC in the near future) from Alafrickingbama?


According to reports, Smart is only considering a move because he is perceived as not being a hot commodity because it is Saban's defense. Apparently, he didn't get hardly any looks or buzz this off season. He thinks his star will rise if he moves and performs.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:58 pm to
Another thing.

What in the world would LSU be waiting on with respect to hiring Smart?

LSU wouldn't let Smart sit around and negotiate with Alabama. It would be a take it or leave it type of offer...and LSU would have EVERY INCENTIVE IN THE WORLD to make this public as soon as it was done.

Smart is not the guy. And, Smart wasn't Hannagriff's guy either.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:59 pm to
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According to reports, Smart is only considering a move because he is perceived as not being a hot commodity because it is Saban's defense. Apparently, he didn't get hardly any looks or buzz this off season. He thinks his star will rise if he moves and performs.



That report was from Hannagriff. You can't use Hannagriff reports to support Hannagriff claims.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24395 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 3:59 pm to
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No, Charlie, you meant that he was still actively coaching at the time, either NFL or college playoffs. That was obvious. Otherwise, it's redundant with your other comment that the guy "was a DC in 2014".


You're nitpicking the frick out of this.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17890 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:00 pm to
what he said.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:00 pm to
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This is ridiculous.

So, two weeks after the board melting down over losing a DC to a rival western division foe, the same board would not have viewed LSU stealing the DC (who is universally viewed to be in line for a HC job in the SEC in the near future) from Alafrickingbama?

No fricking way.



Relax. It makes perfect sense. If Smart is the hire, there WILL be people saying he is nothing more than a figurehead and that it is Saban's D. That is exactly what Charles was talking about.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:01 pm to
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That report was from Hannagriff. You can't use Hannagriff reports to support Hannagriff claims.


Actually, the reports have come from a few places. Let me see if I can link some for you.

From 2012:

quote:

No one has called Alabama to inquire about an interview with Smart, according to Saban -- but with three SEC head coaches' seats vacant, the line may get busy soon. There were reports Kentucky inquired about Smart just last week before choosing Mark Stoops, most recently Florida State's defensive coordinator.


LINK

From 2010:

quote:

Saban hired Smart onto his staff at LSU, the Miami Dolphins and immediately at Alabama, where Smart has served as defensive coordinator the past two seasons. Saban said Friday that he would always support an assistant leaving for a promotion but not if he makes a lateral move.


LINK

King of the lateral move:

quote:

awful lot of never-gonna-happen coaching changes have gone down this week, and Florida appears to have perpetrated yet another: The Gainesville Sun's Robbie Andreu is reporting that Alabama defensive coordinating wunderkind Kirby Smart has been offered what we'll safely assume is a substantial pile of ducats to make a lateral move into the SEC East and join Will Muschamp's new staff at Florida.



LINK
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:07 pm to
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Relax. It makes perfect sense. If Smart is the hire, there WILL be people saying he is nothing more than a figurehead and that it is Saban's D. That is exactly what Charles was talking about.



Listen, we've got idiots who are preemptively complaining about a handful of NFL DCs being hired because their defense wasn't good in the NFL.

So, obviously, some people will complain.

But, by and large, this move would basically be viewed as a GREAT hire by Les Miles. It would basically be us doing to Bama what A&M did to us.

I predict that Smart is not the guy. And, I predict that Hannagriff is going to get a continuous stream of criticism on this because this doesn't match up to the info he released on Friday.

The only way that Hannagriff was talking about Smart is if he just doesn't have his finger on the pulse of the fan base. I think too much of Hannagriff to think that is the case. And, given the lack of momentum of the coaching search when he made his comments, it's even harder to believe that he would think that people would be unhappy with Smart.

shite. It was Hannagriff's comments that gave this coaching search new life from a fan perspective. Everyone had pretty much accepted the worst case scenario before then.

Do you honestly think that if Hannagriff had just named Smart on friday instead of hiding it that people would have been disappointed? There would have been dancing bananas everywhere!
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2481 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:09 pm to
Wouldn't Smart be a one year, possibly two year hire? Is that what LSU wants?
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:09 pm to
I took currently coaching to mean that he was employed at the time and not unemployed. I didn't necessarily think he meant his team was still playing. Seems like everyone just assumed that really
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:48 pm to
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Wouldn't Smart be a one year, possibly two year hire? Is that what LSU wants?



It's probably exactly what LSU wants.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56514 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:49 pm to
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I took currently coaching to mean that he was employed at the time and not unemployed. I didn't necessarily think he meant his team was still playing. Seems like everyone just assumed that really



I never heard him say that the team was in the playoffs (NFL or College). It's the "look past the name" part that makes no sense to me.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:01 pm to
Well it makes sense to me and others. Let it go. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
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