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Les was turned off by divisions in the UM program

Posted on 12/1/07 at 7:49 pm
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/1/07 at 7:49 pm
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A Done Deal Dies


The news that Les Miles is remaining with LSU is shocking to everybody, even some of his closest friends.

I was on the phone with one of Miles' boys Saturday morning and he was telling me some of the names Miles was bringing to Michigan. He sounded excited as ESPN reported this to be a done deal. The details were exciting and it sounded like Michigan was breaking the mode of Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr and doing something that would make this an elite program again.

We hung up and he called me back 15 minutes later and said there has been a major snag. LSU had sweetened the offer and he said that Miles had second thoughts. Money was the major factor but there was something else Miles got a bad vibe about.

He knew he was coming to enemy territory. He feared that he would never be embraced by Carr and that he'd be fighting that the entire time he was here. Miles wanted to retain some of the Michigan assistants because he respects their ability. However, he feared that he could not. They were loyal to Carr and he feared divisions within the program before he even got started.

Michigan was offering good money. It did not match the $3 million he will get at LSU but the Wolverines were willing to go as high as $2.4 million to lure him.

When you heard this was a done deal, trust me it was. But a man is allowed to rethink things and change his mind. Even Miles' closest friends were paving the way for him get relearn the community.

In fact a private meeting between me and Miles was being set up after he got to town. That is how close this thing was.

Now Michigan must start from scratch. Let's see how Blue recovers from this shocker.




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Money was a huge factor too, but there seems to be big problems at Big Blue.
This post was edited on 12/1/07 at 7:50 pm
Posted by MichiganMan
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Member since Nov 2007
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 7:54 pm to
F***ing Carr. He has ran the Big Blue program into the ground and still has to screw with it in retirement. Bo himself didn't want Carr to take over Michigan but he knew the program was bigger than him so he kept his mouth shut. Hey Carr learn something from Bo and STFU...
Posted by Scoring Explosion
Lincoln
Member since Nov 2007
45 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 7:55 pm to
You're right. They lose to teams like App. St.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 7:56 pm to
They should've run Carr off before they allowed him to "announce" his retirement. It's becoming more evident him and his supporters had some play in this.
Posted by MichiganMan
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Member since Nov 2007
294 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:00 pm to
The bad thing is all of us fans wanted him gone long ago but Bill Martin would have let Carr coach as long as he wanted. Martin better find a coach without Carr's involvement. But just from what happened today we know that will not happen.
Posted by TheChamp
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Oct 2005
8085 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:01 pm to
michigan is fricked if they can never move forward. i knew carr did not like miles, but i didn't realize it was this bad. why go to michigan when you can have total control of one of the best programs in america?
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

You're right. They lose to teams like App. St.


They'd have been better off to take care of the problem at that point instead of waiting for him to influence their program in any way at the end.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32841 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:06 pm to
So it comes down to what the original rumors were...at least sort of. Miles was not a Carr guy and Carr would be an obstacle in the hiring process.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

michigan is fricked if they can never move forward. i knew carr did not like miles, but i didn't realize it was this bad. why go to michigan when you can have total control of one of the best programs in america?


I think he knew the divisions in the program would interfere with his ability to coach. I suspect the leak(and he probably knew where it came from) this morning just pissed Les off even more.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:09 pm to
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So it comes down to what the original rumors were...at least sort of. Miles was not a Carr guy and Carr would be an obstacle in the hiring process.


It also sounds like the other side didn't want him to keep some of Carr's assistants he liked.
Posted by JMZ2
In a van down by the river
Member since Nov 2004
674 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 8:20 pm to
I think you UM fans are kind of screwed for the next few years if Carr is having this much influence. Maybe it's a case of him not ready to let go. You program will suck because of politics. I wish you luck, really.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11546 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 10:34 pm to
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I think you UM fans are kind of screwed for the next few years if Carr is having this much influence.


Major mistake by Michigan Athletics for them to let his minions matter at that point.
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