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How safe is Mack Brown??

Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:17 pm
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1836 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:17 pm
I know this has been thrown out there but Texas has been a .500 football team at best since the NC game against Bama.

The Texas faithful do not except .500 in football. Will he be forced out next year? This year has too many high profile jobs just in the SEC available.
Posted by cfbfan#1
Member since Nov 2012
381 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:24 pm to
I have read that he is out at the end of the year probably forced to retire. Supposedly he and dodds got into a huge fight
Posted by Gulffisherman
Bogalusa
Member since Oct 2009
3531 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:25 pm to
Not safe.
Posted by VAvolfan
Member since Feb 2010
2326 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:29 pm to
He's turning into Fulmer 2.o
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:30 pm to
Talked to a longhorn last night. He says he's gone this year and that they are getting Muschamp back.

I believe him on MB being let go.

Muschamp is not leaving Florida.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Muschamp is not leaving Florida.


Saban is leaving bama.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Talked to a longhorn last night. He says he's gone this year and that they are getting Muschamp back.

I believe him on MB being let go.

Muschamp is not leaving Florida.


Muschamp coming back would shock me - he was undeservedly bad mouthed by various people around the program in order to prop up Mack's ego/make it seem like Diaz was better (sorry...had to catch my breath I was laughing so hard as I typed that last part).

Certainly some part of the fan base would love WM back.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:57 pm to
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Supposedly he and dodds got into a huge fight


Supposedly after the Kansas game outside the locker room - I believe it has been blown up to something more than it was.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10536 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Talked to a longhorn last night. He says he's gone this year and that they are getting Muschamp back


Heard this as well. Said FL is a brutal place to recruit/coach. UT has more cash than anyone, a winning brand, loads of tradition, and a winnable conference.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:03 pm to
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How safe is Mack Brown??


Texas is 4-8 in home conference games in the last three years. Four and f*cking eight. And consider that record obviously does not count any game against OU.

My personal hope is that Mack and Dodds resign after Kstate, agrees to coach whatever crap bowl we're in, while a new coach is hired to come in, assess the situation, clean house if needed, and recruit (a la the Ohio State deal of last year...it's unfair, but if they got it we should too).

Unfortunately I don't think that's guaranteed at all, especially if somehow, miracle upon miracles, Texas beats Kstate (it won't happen). Mack may be stubborn enough to not go quietly and I don't think enough big boosters are lined up against him right now (they may be depending on the KState outcome).
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:06 pm to
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UT has more cash than anyone, a winning brand, loads of tradition, and a winnable conference


Florida has 3 of those 4 (I think any difference in cash is minimal). From what I've read on insider boards (taken with a grain of salt) as well as from people in Austin who knew Will (not well, but did know him), I would be really, really surprised if he came back.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:12 pm to
I'm not making the call on whether Mack is gone or not after this year, but it wont be because he's forced out

if he leaves, it's under his own volition, OR the powers that be somehow find a way to force Deloss out

It'll be easier to move Dodds than Brown


I hear a good bit of solid info from time to time, and while there's no consensus, the general feeling (from a good conversation last nite) is that Mack coaches one more year and steps down. I'm not sure if everyone is aware of just how bad of a taste Muschamp had when he left for Florida, I doubt if he'll come back. He also burnt a few bridges on his way out, it may be that his candidacy would be blocked or at least hindered by some in Belmont
Posted by FightingTigers1
Member since Jan 2009
714 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:12 pm to
Texas fans, how much would yall be willing to pay to get the guy yall want? I hear the number 10+ million thrown around all the time, is that accurate? Because yall should be able to get anyone yall want if that is the case, NFL or NCAA. For LSU's sake please take Muschamp or Saban, even though i love sticking to old coaches of ours.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:19 pm to
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I hear the number 10+ million thrown around all the time, is that accurate


I don't think so - and I hope not because that's so far over what any coach is making that we would just be bidding against ourselves (and that's stupid).

If we're talking about a coach with legit skins on the wall in CFB (obviously Saban fits that description), then I wouldn't mind paying the guy more than anyone else (or raising his salary a bit if he is the highest paid guy now). But if we're talking Chris Petersen from Boise, we could double his salary and he still wouldn't be the highest paid coach in the Big 12. Which I think is fair enough for a guy that has done very well but, ultimately, has not won the big prize (even if it's not really his fault).
Posted by MaGoo
Ethel, LA
Member since Jun 2004
628 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:42 pm to
You heard right on the 10 million quote.

Longhorns to Saban $10 million a year for a 10 year contract. $100 million dollar deal.
Posted by swamp74
Member since Oct 2011
227 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:49 pm to
If I was a college coach and wasn't loyal to any particular school, Texas and USC are the two best jobs, they both get the top recruits each year and Texas made some very wise financial decisions years ago and could pay what they want.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:50 pm to
Same longhorn last night said Sexton called UT about Saban to Texas, asking how much they would be willing to pay for him. They said that they would pay the same as Bama.

Sexton is obviously trying to get Saban a good pay raise/Texas wants a 10 to 15 year coach.

I can't see Saban going for more than 5 more years.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
800 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Texas wants a 10 to 15 year coach


Is Saban good for another 10-15 years? Maybe. If anyone is that is coaching today (at his age) it would be him. But when has he ever stayed that long anywhere? I think he stays at Bama no matter what Texas could offer.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 3:02 pm to
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You heard right on the 10 million quote. Longhorns to Saban $10 million a year for a 10 year contract. $100 million dollar deal.


It's sad how some fans will cling to any rumor that gets Saban out of Bama - no matter how baseless and wild the rumor may be. A few questions for those fans:

1) do you really think Bama can't match $10M/ year if necessary to keep Saban at Bama?
2) why do you assume UT would offer a 61 year old - who you all claim is getting tired of the grind - a 10 year deal?
3) what's the motivation to go to Texas?

The rumors come (typically) from a select group of LSU fans who do not represent the rest of LSU fans. Since Saban has been at Bama he was supposed to leave for: LSU, PSU, OSU, ND, USC, WVU (bc thats ""home"), the cowboys, the browns, and now Texas for the third straight year. Keep hoping guys. It's entertaining for the rest of us.
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 3:40 pm to
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1) do you really think Bama can't match $10M/ year if necessary to keep Saban at Bama? 2) why do you assume UT would offer a 61 year old - who you all claim is getting tired of the grind - a 10 year deal? 3) what's the motivation to go to Texas?


1) I'm not sure if bama can or would match any offer by Texas. For the sake of argument, let's say it's $10M/year. Would the bama powers that be actually commit to such a number? Remember, bama isn't Texas economically. Lots of financial heavy hitters in texas who would keep adding to the pile until bama caves.

2) Wouldn't have to be a 10 year deal. Would be whatever Saban wanted. 3 year, 5 year or 10 year. That's a minor hurdle.

3) One of the main motivations of course would be money. Secondly, as a state, Texas is head and shoulders above bama in resources. What does bama have, Birmingham...Mobile? Texas is a whole nuther country compared to the backwoods of bama. Thirdly, as far as recruiting, he would be the biggest dog in Texas and have the same, if not more, access to Louisiana recruits and also to Oklahoma recruits. That's a much bigger dog than recruiting for bama.

While a Saban move is speculation at this point in time, there's no doubt that an all out effort will be made by Texas to get him....when Brown leaves. If Brown stays for another year or two then the scenario obviously changes. But if Brown is gone after this season Saban in directly in the sights of the longhorns....and they're hungry. Very very hungry.
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