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I started Tom Clancy’s so-called Ryanverse (possible spoilers)

Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:41 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:41 pm
I’ve never read a single Tom Clancy novel and decided to go in chronological order. So I started reading Without Remorse. I know Ryan only makes a cameo in the novel but I’m still enjoying the origin story of John Clark just over 200 pages in. Sad what happened to Pam. I can’t wait to see Tucker get his, the evil bastard.
Posted by luvdoc
"Please Ignore Our Yelp Reviews"
Member since May 2005
918 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 1:13 pm to
It's been many years, but I think you will enjoy the series.

Reading them in the order written would make the prequel you are reading now a bit more meaningful, with quite a few references to people or relatives of people who show up in the later books.

I've often wondered how those books would stand up for someone who didn't personally live during the Cold War. Are you old enough to remember that?

I am too young to remember vietnam, so that prequel felt like historical fiction to me, and I would guess the rest of the series would feel that way to someone with no living memory of the Cold War
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8136 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:05 pm to
I hope we eventually get a Without Remorse movie.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29255 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:50 pm to
You are in luck

They made one in 2021 with Michael B Jordan as the lead
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8136 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:56 pm to
Like I said, I hope we eventually get a Without Remorse movie.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1421 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 7:19 pm to
Withour Remorse was my least favorite. I prefer the grand scale of war, political intrigue etc. Debt of Honor, Executive Orders and The Cardinal of the Kremlin are my favorites. While not in the Ryanverse, Red Storm Rising is fantastic too.

Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6119 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:05 am to
The Hunt for Red October is the first Jack Ryan book and one of the greatest novels ever written.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10588 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

The Hunt for Red October is the first Jack Ryan book and one of the greatest novels ever written.


It's the best of the Jack Ryan's but Red Storm Rising is Clancy's best. HFRO is second and Without Remorse is third. I don't think you should start reading Without Remorse and should never watch the movie.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59101 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 11:47 am to
The Cardinal of the Kremlin is my vote for the best Ryan book and one of the greatest spy novels ever written.

Jack Ryan series
Cardinal of the Kremlin
Hunt for Red October
Clear and Present Danger
Sum of All Fears
Patriot Games (oddly better movie than book)
Debt of Honor gets a little shark jumpy
Executive Orders
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4696 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:21 am to
Without Remorse was excellent and a must for any Clark fan. Any actually written by Clancy are great. I lost interest after his death. No one but Michener could match his detail and research.
My favorite is The Sum of All Fears. The tension builds for hundreds of pages. By the time I finished I felt like I could build an atomic weapon,lol!
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4598 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:52 am to
I read Hunt for Red October back some years ago, loved it, but then never read another Clancy novel until like 2019 when I randomly picked up Patriot Games at an airport and decided to work my way through the Ryanverse as well. I read them in published order, through Executive Orders. I was super stoked about Without Remorse (even though it's not exactly a Ryan book) because I love Clark. However, it was easily my least favorite of the series. Cardinal of the Kremlin was probably my favorite. Loved them all, even if Debt of Honor and Executive Orders got to be a little "too much".

Havent read anything past Executive Orders, and I'm not sure if I will. Seems like it was a good wrap-up on that universe to me.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51897 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Loved them all, even if Debt of Honor and Executive Orders got to be a little "too much".


Is that why you blocked Bear and the Dragon from your memory?
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4598 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 6:57 pm to
I stopped with Executive Orders
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 8:26 am to
Update:

I’m currently about halfway through The Hunt For Red October. It absolutely blows my mind how unfaithful the movie adaptations of this book, Patriot Games, and Without Remorse were.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89496 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:40 pm to
I missed this thread the first time around. It should be said that Red Storm Rising (not a Ryanverse, although it has a Ryan proxy) remains my favorite Clancy novel.

It was a damned fine video game, too, back in the day.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3900 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 1:23 pm to
Kinda OT, but what does everyone think of the Ryan Jr series?
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