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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:16 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:16 pm to OMLandshark
The entire internet is talking about it, plus there are much better pictures of the crypts than the one you posted that are identical to the ones Sansa is in.
Plus the two entrances to the castles look completely differnt, one is a completely rounded arch and the other isn't.
Plus the two entrances to the castles look completely differnt, one is a completely rounded arch and the other isn't.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 6:18 pm
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:19 pm to DukeSilver
The lighting is still off in that picture. Seems to be more of a dungeon than a crypt to me. I'm not saying its impossible that they changed the lighting, but I'm not completely sold on it.
I noticed the scaffolding, but I just assumed it was an unfinished shot that they'd add in later closer to air, and didn't consider the fact that they need to rebuild Winterfell after burning it.
I noticed the scaffolding, but I just assumed it was an unfinished shot that they'd add in later closer to air, and didn't consider the fact that they need to rebuild Winterfell after burning it.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:20 pm to SetTheMood
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SOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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I've never bought into this. For one, it is stated more than once how Ned came about Jon and who with. Also, Jon just got Julius Caesared at the end of the last book.
Trololololololol.
Must. Not. Take. Bait
Seriously so, so hard not to go into why John's story hasn't ended.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:22 pm to OMLandshark
Well and I can't see it very well on my phone but in the Vale guards picture above the archway you see in the background of the shot, it looks like that could be a stone direwolf figure over that archway. I can't zoom in enough to tell if it's a horse or a wolf.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:25 pm to OMLandshark
The Starks don't live in winterfell and therefore don't keep it lit and visit the crypts often. When they did every candle down the hall was lit. Now just enough for Sansa to make her way down are lit.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:33 pm to OMLandshark
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And here are the Arryns entering Winterfell or Harrenhal:
Looks like Moat Cailin (sp) too.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 6:58 pm to Korin
I sense much irritation on my part in watching this season. I will just have to let the books be the books and the series do whatever. I am just holding out hope that GRRM will in fact release WOW this year.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 7:03 pm to Korin
So via the ol' Google box, this is part of a location photo from an article they did on the castle that the Winterfell scenes are filmed on GoT.
See the concrete decoration over top of the archway they're entering from in the middle of the shot?
It looks pretty identical to the concrete decoration (but from the side instead of head on) in the shot from the trailer of the Vale soldiers in the background of the shot.
That's almost assuredly Winterfell.
See the concrete decoration over top of the archway they're entering from in the middle of the shot?
It looks pretty identical to the concrete decoration (but from the side instead of head on) in the shot from the trailer of the Vale soldiers in the background of the shot.
That's almost assuredly Winterfell.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 7:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
Well, shite. Yes, that entrance does look identical to the one in Winterfell and not the more rounded one in Harrenhall. I will be pretty pissed if LF's scheme this season is to marry Sansa off to Ramsay. I'm going to try not to be pissed, but it will seem as if David and Dan have jumped the shark with that one if that is why Sansa is there. Seriously, the Crow's Eye would be a better option for LF to marry Sansa to.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 7:19 pm to OMLandshark
I don't know that it necessarily means that she's marrying Ramsay. I don't see Littlefinger giving her up in that capacity, at all. Largely because I don't see him putting his prize at risk like that.
Now it may be that they are there on invitation as being Arya's "family" (since Ramsay and Co. really want to sell this union) and they're curious as to the state of Winterfell and whether Arya is still alive (and possibly to acquire her as well). There could be a lot of other variables once they reach that point on the show that doesn't have anything to do with Sansa marrying Ramsay.
All that said, even if they do go that route, I don't know that it necessarily jumps the shark. I think I'd get some real satisfaction out of seeing Sansa frick over Ramsay Snow in some shape or form. Especially if the show is definitely going to explore other venues outside of the books. And I haven't been terribly disappointed with D&D's changes outside of the omission of Lady Stoneheart.
At this point it's probably just best to accept that they're two different mediums and because GRRM is going to write at his own pace show be damned two different storylines.
Now it may be that they are there on invitation as being Arya's "family" (since Ramsay and Co. really want to sell this union) and they're curious as to the state of Winterfell and whether Arya is still alive (and possibly to acquire her as well). There could be a lot of other variables once they reach that point on the show that doesn't have anything to do with Sansa marrying Ramsay.
All that said, even if they do go that route, I don't know that it necessarily jumps the shark. I think I'd get some real satisfaction out of seeing Sansa frick over Ramsay Snow in some shape or form. Especially if the show is definitely going to explore other venues outside of the books. And I haven't been terribly disappointed with D&D's changes outside of the omission of Lady Stoneheart.
At this point it's probably just best to accept that they're two different mediums and because GRRM is going to write at his own pace show be damned two different storylines.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 7:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don't know that it necessarily means that she's marrying Ramsay. I don't see Littlefinger giving her up in that capacity, at all. Largely because I don't see him putting his prize at risk like that.
Even if the Boltons knew that, why would LF bring her to them? Yes, I know that Winterfell is LF's crown jewel that he hopes to get, but the Boltons would most likely murder Sansa the second she steps into Winterfell. And if the Boltons knew this, they'd most likely send a raven to Cersei telling them that they know of it.
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Now it may be that they are there on invitation as being Arya's "family" (since Ramsay and Co. really want to sell this union) and they're curious as to the state of Winterfell and whether Arya is still alive (and possibly to acquire her as well). There could be a lot of other variables once they reach that point on the show that doesn't have anything to do with Sansa marrying Ramsay.
But why would the Boltons know this? Wouldn't Cersei know this as well, then figuring out that LF was the one who killed her son, declare war on the Vale? It's just not adding up to me.
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All that said, even if they do go that route, I don't know that it necessarily jumps the shark. I think I'd get some real satisfaction out of seeing Sansa frick over Ramsay Snow in some shape or form. Especially if the show is definitely going to explore other venues outside of the books. And I haven't been terribly disappointed with D&D's changes outside of the omission of Lady Stoneheart.
Sansa and Ramsay really don't have any connection in the novel. I'd rather Reek or Jon take him out.
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At this point it's probably just best to accept that they're two different mediums and because GRRM is going to write at his own pace show be damned two different storylines.
I am as well, since I've prepped myself for Aegon not being in the show and completely changing the dynamics of the upcoming war, but so long as it makes sense I'll let it fly. This one is a bit harder for me to swallow. I don't see why LF, unless he plans on using his army to murder all the Boltons and Freys Red Wedding style, would ever bring Sansa anywhere close to Winterfell while they're there.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:53 pm to BluegrassBelle
The picture clip where the Vale soldiers entering...look at the limped flag. Seems like the colors are navy and red. Only flag I that has these colors are Roose Bolton's flayed men. And from S4, we see Roose going to Winterfell.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:16 am to TaxmanMSU
I'm late to the party but damn that was an interesting article
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:39 am to socraticsilence
Jon got to screw a hot foreign Queen?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:14 pm to OMLandshark
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This one is a bit harder for me to swallow. I don't see why LF, unless he plans on using his army to murder all the Boltons and Freys Red Wedding style, would ever bring Sansa anywhere close to Winterfell while they're there.
Yeah, you were overreacting a bit last season to a bunch of stuff IMO, but if they do this you'll have a right to be pretty pissed. Littlefinger and Sansa joining up with the Boltons would be severe jumping the shark. Everyone in the north hates the Boltons for the red wedding, the only reason they are able to stay alive at all would be due to their alliance with the Lannisters. No way in hell they'd just scrap their alliance with the Lannisters and join Littlefinger. And that's not even going into Littlefinger not wanting to give up Sansa.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:10 pm to auyushu
After doing some further analysis, I don't think Littlefinger will marry her off to Ramsay.
1) Littlefinger is rather covetous of the prettier, smarter version of Cat.
2) She's one of his main cards to play in his game. No way he'd use it on the fricking Boltons.
1) Littlefinger is rather covetous of the prettier, smarter version of Cat.
2) She's one of his main cards to play in his game. No way he'd use it on the fricking Boltons.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:21 pm to ladytiger118
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After doing some further analysis, I don't think Littlefinger will marry her off to Ramsay.
1) Littlefinger is rather covetous of the prettier, smarter version of Cat.
2) She's one of his main cards to play in his game. No way he'd use it on the fricking Boltons.
Those are my thoughts as well, but we come here as book readers. It's just common sense LF wouldn't marry her off to Ramsay. Out of all the major bachelors in the realm, Ramsay would probably be the worst for LF to marry Sansa off to next to Black Walder. But I don't see why in hell LF would want her anywhere near Winterfell with the Boltons and Freys in charge. Next to King's Landing, Casterly Rock, and those two houses' headquarters, there couldn't be a worse place for Sansa to be.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:24 am to ladytiger118
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Littlefinger is rather covetous of the prettier, smarter version of Cat.
Sansa is might be prettier but I wouldn't bet money that shes smarter than Cat. Not saying she won't get there but she was/is so damn naive.
Granted, Cat set the bar pretty fricking low by kicking off the war when she arrested Tyrion on her way to the Vale,
Littlefinger is probably more covetous of the fact that Sansa is young and around the age that he fell for Cat at anyways, regardless of looks or intelligence. He sees her as a second chance to get Cat
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:34 am to Cockopotamus
Cat was not smart to begin with. She let let LF manipulated her in "trading" Jamie for the 2 girls.
The Starks are good people (my fav family)but they are not schemers and plotters like other families. They are reactive instead of proactive.
The Starks are good people (my fav family)but they are not schemers and plotters like other families. They are reactive instead of proactive.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:46 am to PeteRose
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The Starks are good people (my fav family)but they are not schemers and plotters like other families. They are reactive instead of proactive.
I don't really agree with that. Sansa is about to change from her little bird ways after she graduates from the University of Littlefinger majoring in Who the Hell Saw That Coming? Robb was also proactive as he was kicking the shite out of the Lannisters by being unpredictable, until he fell for a Westerling like a dumbass. Arya is anything but reactive. Rickon is wilder than any of them. I would love to see this kid at battle age with Shaggy Dog at his side. Jon isn't either, but doesn't matter because he's Targ. Ned and Cat absolutely, but their children are anything but at this point.
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