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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:54 pm to
Could be Myrcella wanting revenge for sending her away
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:56 pm to
Jamie is younger than Cercei. It's referring to Roberts 16 bastards. Not Jamie's. Jamie has only been with one woman in his life. Cercei.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:59 pm to
"the valonqar shall wrap HIS hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”

So it can't be Myrcella
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 12:00 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:03 am to
Well we know D&D can change that up for the show
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:22 am to
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Well we know D&D can change that up for the show



And they'll definitely be setting the precedent.

The posters in this thread should pull our resources and get GRRM in a Misery type scenario
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:23 am to
Also can't be Jamie. Clearly says "His hands". Obviously he only has one.
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:55 am to
quote:

Valonqar is High Valyrian for "little brother"


LINK

I think it will be Tyrion.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:02 am to
Maggy tells Cersei everything as it is, plain and simple. She all but names the killer. And Cersei still doesn't, can't, decipher it. Cercei is filled with delusion. She thinks she will always have Jamie. Yet we see from Jamie's POV that he doesn't see things the same way. Or he at least is trying to distance himself.

Cercei has let this prophesy control her life. She's always thinking about it. And scheming because of it. She wants Tyrion dead because she thinks he is the valonqar. She despises Margaery because she believes she is her replacement. It consumes Cercei.

Meanwhile, Margaery is slowly manipulating Tommen. And Tommen is falling in love with Margaery. Or so he thinks he is. As that is all part of Margaerys plan. There was a Jaime chapter in AFFC where he storms into her room during a bath and demands certain things of her, like wanting a cat and not wanting to eat vegetables anymore, and it was shown that Margaery fueled him into doing that.

I think the reason why so many people think Jaime is the valonqar is because they're making Cersei's mistake. Cersei gets the translation of the word valonqar separately from when she hears the prophecy itself, so there is reason for it to be divided in her mind thanks to the passage of time. Once this happens, she is so narcissistic that she only is thinking from her own POV, so--to her--it has to be her own brother. And since it's presented to the reader within this context, the reader is led to make the same assumption without questioning it.

Maggy tells Cersei outright who is going to kill her, and Cersei is just too stubborn to hear the words coming out of her mouth.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 6:51 am to
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Also can't be Jamie. Clearly says "His hands". Obviously he only has one.


He's got a golden hand. I'd be very surprised if Jaime didn't kill Cersei.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:25 am to
Same here.

Tyrion killing Cersei is a total cop out and I'd hate it. Jaime killing her suits both of their arcs better and will make everything come full circle.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:09 pm to
Lady where can I send you this dress?

Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Maggy tells Cersei everything as it is, plain and simple. She all but names the killer. And Cersei still doesn't, can't, decipher it. Cercei is filled with delusion. She thinks she will always have Jamie. Yet we see from Jamie's POV that he doesn't see things the same way. Or he at least is trying to distance himself.

Cercei has let this prophesy control her life. She's always thinking about it. And scheming because of it. She wants Tyrion dead because she thinks he is the valonqar. She despises Margaery because she believes she is her replacement. It consumes Cercei.

Meanwhile, Margaery is slowly manipulating Tommen. And Tommen is falling in love with Margaery. Or so he thinks he is. As that is all part of Margaerys plan. There was a Jaime chapter in AFFC where he storms into her room during a bath and demands certain things of her, like wanting a cat and not wanting to eat vegetables anymore, and it was shown that Margaery fueled him into doing that.

I think the reason why so many people think Jaime is the valonqar is because they're making Cersei's mistake. Cersei gets the translation of the word valonqar separately from when she hears the prophecy itself, so there is reason for it to be divided in her mind thanks to the passage of time. Once this happens, she is so narcissistic that she only is thinking from her own POV, so--to her--it has to be her own brother. And since it's presented to the reader within this context, the reader is led to make the same assumption without questioning it.

Maggy tells Cersei outright who is going to kill her, and Cersei is just too stubborn to hear the words coming out of her mouth.



Gold will be their crowns and gold will be their shrouds sort of implies they all die before her, no?
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:22 am to
You can give it to me at the next GoT GT . You'll have to get iluv and BluegrassBelle one too .
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:25 am to
Here's a site with some Game of Thrones fabrics. I may have to splurge and make a bag with one.

LINK
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 7:52 am to
She definitely doesn't fill this dress out very well. Needs some cheeseburgers and a boob job ASAP.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 11:56 am to
I wouldn't have that problem .
No Ironborn Storyline in S5

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:43 pm to
Is Tyrion going to be Victarion too?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 7:52 pm to
I'm good with dropping the Iron Islands stuff. Very boring part of the series IMO.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:15 pm to
Yeah it's pretty damn boring. I wonder if they're just going to keep Balon alive .
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