Started By
Message

re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:32 am to
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:32 am to
No because they're hair is not silver. Lannister hair is gold so that is Tywin's genes not Areys'
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:28 am to
Jon Snow is theorized as possibly being of targaryen blood. Yet his hair is brown
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:29 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:29 am to
Something tells me Stark blood is a little more potent than that inbred Targaryen shite.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:33 am to
quote:

No because they're hair is not silver. Lannister hair is gold so that is Tywin's genes not Areys'



Jon took on Lyanna traits over Rhaegar's. It's not impossible that Joanna did the same with her children.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:29 am to
Plus most of the Targs who had a Martell parent took on the Dornish look.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the "atleastoneoftywinskidsisaTarg" theory. But I think that Tyrion is truly Tywin's son like Genna said, in personality and blood. I see Tyrion becoming more and more like Tywin and not being the 'hero' of the series.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:34 am to
It's also a little strange that Tywin son of Tytos named his first son Jamie. While his dwarf son was given a more familiar name in Tyrion
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 10:46 am to
It is a possibility(forgot Joanna was Tywin's cousin) but I that if that if it truly happened Tywin would have rebelled, not Robert. Nothing ever gets past Tywin.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:18 am to
I've been thinking about the Hooded Man theory lately. Here's my thoughts.

Some say it is Benjen Stark, some say it is Theon Greyjoy’s split personality… I say it is twofold. The “Ghost of Winterfell” (as in hooded man who goes around killing Bolton men) is Mance Rayder (Abel, the singer) with his people, which is the reason Melisandre sent him to Winterfell in the first place as Jon assumed, correctly. But. “Ghost of Winterfell” is also Theon, simply because this is his POV chapter. This means that the title itself foreshadows development of Theon’s character arch that will end in death making Theon another one of Wintefell’s Ghosts. To what end? For one, Theon has suffered enough. Clean death would be a nice way to end his life. And if his death can aid a sorcerer from North of the Wall in resurrecting one of the remaining Stark children, his debt will truly be paid. Bloodraven, with the help of Bran, who’s been communicating with Theon via Weirwood tree (ADWD) and ravens (TWOW), will use Theon’s beheading (suggested to Stannis by Asha in TWOW) as the blood sacrifice and a retribution for Eddard Stark and his boys, to raise Jon from dead. ”There is power in king’s blood” and a reason why the last image Bran Stark saw through Weirwood in ADWD was the blood sacrifice. Death for Life.

Anybody else got any thoughts on this?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:18 am to
quote:

It is a possibility(forgot Joanna was Tywin's cousin) but I that if that if it truly happened Tywin would have rebelled, not Robert. Nothing ever gets past Tywin.


One thing certainly does: his children. Anything that Tywin doesn't want to see, he'll block it out completely. Tywin probably wouldn't even allow himself to think that his wife was raped by Aerys, unless the evidence was undeniable. I don't think he ever accepted that Cersei and Jaime were in an incestuous relationship for instance.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:28 am to
This was on the front page of r/gameofthrones today, and I still got chills reading it again. I didn't understand any of it the first time, but now it means so much...

quote:

"He dreamt an old dream, of three knights in white cloaks, and a tower long fallen, and Lyanna in her bed of blood.

In the dream his friends rode with him, as they had in life. Proud Martyn Cassel, Jory's father; faithful Theo Wull; Ethan Glover, who had been Brandon's squire; Ser Mark Ryswell, soft of speech and gentle of heart; the crannogman, Howland Reed; Lord Dustin on his great red stallion. Ned had known their faces as well as he knew his own once, but the years leech at a man's memories, even those he has vowed never to forget. In the dream they were only shadows, grey wraiths on horses made of mist.

They were seven, facing three. In the dream as it had been in life. Yet these were no ordinary three. They waited before the round tower, the red mountains of Dorne at their backs, their white cloaks blowing in the wind. And these were no shadows; their faces burned clear, even now. Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, had a sad smile on his lips. The hilt of the greatsword Dawn poked up over his right shoulder. Ser Oswell Whent was on one knee, sharpening his blade with a whetstone. Across his white-enameled helm, the black bat of his House spread its wings. Between them stood fierce old Ser Gerold Hightower, the White Bull, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.
"I looked for you on the Trident," Ned said to them.

"We were not there," Ser Gerold answered.

"Woe to the Usurper if we had been," said Ser Oswell.

"When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were."

"Far away," Ser Gerold Said, "or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells."

"I came down on Storm's End to lift the seige," Ned told them, "and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them."

"Our knees do not bend easily," said Ser Arthur Dayne.

"Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him."
"Ser Willem is a good man and true," said Ser Oswell.
"But not of the Kingsguard," Sir Gerold pointed out. "The Kingsguard does not flee."

"Then or now," said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.

"We swore a vow," explained old Ser Gerold.
Ned's wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
"And now it begins," said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.

"No," Ned said with sadness in his voice. "Now it ends." As they came together in a rush of steel and shadow, he could hear Lyanna screaming. "Eddard!" she called. A storm of rose petals blew across a blood-streaked sky, as blue as the eyes of death."


Audio and some video

Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:30 am to
Okay here is some if my notes for AGoT. There are certain chapter you should go back and reread entirely because there is just too much to type and I'm on my phone. Also these note are just some things I find important that could come in to play.

Reread: Arya III Chapter 32. It's the one where she overhears Varys in the dungeons.
In EddardVIII Pycelle mentions the Faceless. I don't think there is much there but someone has been talking to him about it, or why would it be on his mind.
Catelyn VI it is said when she meets Ser Waynwood "her heart had turn to stone" because she did not weep for the dead men she had lost along to the Vale. Mya Stone is seen for the first time.
Eddard IX Ned things of promises he made to Lyanna. Soon after he wonders if Rhaegar visited brothels.
Eddard X should be reread.
Catelyn VII from the dialogue it seems as if Jon Arryn was trying to get Robin as far away from Lysa as possible.
Jon V in it he gets word that he will takes his vows. He rides to clear his head and think of all the places he will not see.
Reread Eddard XII and pay close attention to the exchange between him and Cersei. It talks of blue roses and bring Ned almost to tears.
Bran VI wants to learn the magic of the CoF and the TEC.
Sansa V has some history on Selmy if you're interested.
Eddard XV should be reread and paid close attention to. Varys in there in a face that Ned barely recognizes.
Bran VII reread and pay close attention. History of Westeros and some of the Statk family.
Daenarys IX reread. It is her first dream.
Daenarys X The Red Comet: Tail of the Dragon. They're here.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:33 am to
Idk. If he's not going to accept Tyrion for disfigured why would he accept two children that are not his.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Daenarys X The Red Comet: Tail of the Dragon. They're here


Or Azor Ahai has been reborn. And the red comet marked the birth of Daenarys as Azor Ahai
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

"Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him."
"Ser Willem is a good man and true," said Ser Oswell.
"But not of the Kingsguard," Sir Gerold pointed out. "The Kingsguard does not flee."


That should seal the deal right there that Jon Snow was--and is-- the rightful King of Westeros. Why people still even question R+L=J anymore is beyond me. All the evidence is there in Ned's AGOT chapters.

quote:


Reread: Arya III Chapter 32. It's the one where she overhears Varys in the dungeons.

That scene (upon reading it) was very peculiar to me/kind of out of left field. But given Arya's training, I'm convinced now that George threw a bone to us to perhaps foreshadow that Arya is going to kill Varys. I've said this before and I'll say it a million times over, I've always wanted Sansa to kill Littlefinger and Arya to kill Varys.

quote:


Catelyn VI it is said when she meets Ser Waynwood "her heart had turn to stone" because she did not weep for the dead men she had lost along to the Vale. Mya Stone is seen for the first time.

Mind=blown. Very clever of George to already hint at Lady Stoneheart in the very first book. I never noticed that.
quote:


Eddard IX Ned things of promises he made to Lyanna. Soon after he wonders if Rhaegar visited brothels.

Yet another reason why I think R+L=J. If Rhaegar kidnapped and raped Lyanna, I don't think that Ned would've respected him. That very thought of Ned thinking "I don't think Rhaegar went to brothels" proved to me that perhaps Lyanna revealed to Ned on her bed of blood that she went willingly with him and loved him.

Robert is the only one who tends to think of Rhaegar as a rapist, and I think Robert knew deep down inside that Lyanna didn't love him and didn't want to admit to himself that she ran off with him. Jaime, Cersei, Ned, Barristan, Jorah, JonCon, the list goes on for all the people who respected/admired Rhaegar, and they're all from different houses and allegiances.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

R+L=J


There is little doubt. How is Jon going to find out?

One thing that is against R+L=J is the Kingsguard fights the Uncle of the King in this case. Why would the Kingsguard say something first to prevent a fight? It was all Stark bannerman, no Baratheon or Arryn men.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:37 pm to
Howland Reed is the only living person who knows the truth.

Ladytiger118: I have problems about obsessing over things. When I first finished ASoIaF to where we are now I could only wrap my head around one other book and that was three months after I finished.

I'm a stickler for details. There is also a bunch of foreshadowing about Tyrion's disfigurement after the battle of black water but I didn't find it important because I didn't think that it was a major turning point.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116091 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:40 pm to
Benjen Stark might know the truth. We just don't know if he is still alive.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:48 pm to
He's alive. It would be pointless to bring him up constantly if he was dead.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116091 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

He's alive.


I agree. What role do you see for him?
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I agree. What role do you see for him?


Prologue WoW character or he saves Bran from the Three Eyed Crow.
Jump to page
Page First 524 525 526 527 528 ... 1062
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 526 of 1062Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram