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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 10/30/15 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 4:10 pm to
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And since Sansa has been seen shooting battlefield scenes with Jon, that is why I'm thinking that we will get either barbecued Rickon and Osha


We've already seen this play out once before, though - in the books and on the show (peasant kids instead of Bran and Rickon).

Without Theon, Ramsey has no way of knowing who the real Rickon and Osha are - maybe the Umbers trade some fakes (a nod to Fake Arya in the books) perhaps even some Freys - for Greatjon, then join the uprising. But, then Roose and Ramsey think they have the real things?

Again, just spitballing - I mean, the fat man has killed lots of popular characters, but if he's just going to kill everyone in the end, that seems to be a sort of literary anarchy that belies all this effort.
This post was edited on 10/30/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 6:24 pm to
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He doesn't owe fealty to Jon and DGAF about the North outside of his duty to Stannis. He's doing it in the books because he wants the North to support Stannis.


At the same time, he's had some warm candor with Jon on the show and even notes that Stannis obviously has some respect for Jon to a degree. If Jon rises and is prepared to take on the Boltons, with the Boltons taking down Stannis, I could see Davos ending up with Jon.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 6:51 pm to
Could it be the Blackfish and Edmure?

What if Ramsay really goes all out and flays Roose and Walda?
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:17 pm to
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I've always thought that Rickon would end up being either Warden of the North or King of the North by the end of the story. But this seems to shoot that prediction out of the water.



I still believe it, to be honest. I don't think he was in the original plans, and there was no real reason for GRRM to include him just to have Ramsey kill him. I think he's there to keep the Stark family name alive through the male line after Jon is found to be a Targaryen and Bran remains far away.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:23 pm to
With no more source material, this thread has definitely gone full crackpot.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 7:40 pm to
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With no more source material, this thread has definitely gone full crackpot


100%
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:14 pm to
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I think he's there to keep the Stark family name alive through the male line after Jon is found to be a Targaryen and Bran remains far away.


That was always the most logical line of progression for me - Jon and Dany become the new Targ dynasty, Bran is the new Greenseer, Rickon is the new Lord Stark - maybe Sansa marries the Martell kid?

(Jamie and Brienne have some bad arse, sword fighting kids in Casterly Rock after Jamie kills Cersei?)

I mean, if nobody lives happily ever after - what kind of "fantasy" is that?

Yeah, crackpotism is running rampant since we all collectively jumped off the Hodor cliff together.

Hodor.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:00 pm to


Lil Jon Snow
Posted by FeedingFrenzy
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 7:07 pm to
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Lil Jon Snow

Good for a laugh every time I check up on this thread
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 7:09 pm
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:19 pm to
If Ramsay lives past this season Dave and Dan can get fricked. It's turning comical at this point.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:20 pm to
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What if Ramsay really goes all out and flays Roose and Walda?



Could definitely see this. I feel like Ramsay killing his dad is a big possibility.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:22 pm to
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Could definitely see this. I feel like Ramsay killing his dad is a big possibility.



I think Ramsay is pretty resourceful and will outlive his father in both the show and the books. The Battle of the Bastards I think is inevitable, although I think they will be different with Sansa and Stannis not being a factor at all.

But yeah, Winds and Season 6 need to be the final appearance for Ramsay.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 8:42 pm to
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If Ramsay lives past this season Dave and Dan can get fricked. It's turning comical at this point.



frick that. He's winning this thing.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:00 pm to
If they plan on ending the show in 8 seasons, then my guess is Ramsay dies in E9 or 10 of this season.

I also think that any combination of Cersei, Margaery, Tommen, & Loras could be done after this season too.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 1:08 am to
In the books, we know that Theon ends up in front of the weir wood with Stannis primed to execute him. Since that's obviously out of the question in the show, I think he's probably a good candidate to get flayed and burned.

The only problem there is that Ramsay has already broken his will and made him Reek. Seems a little off for him to turn around and kill him.

shite, I don't even know. They are about to get down to a relatively slim cast if they don't stop killing them.
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 2:16 am to
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shite, I don't even know. They are about to get down to a relatively slim cast if they don't stop killing them.



Well there is a plethora of characters from the books to replace the actions/motives of characters in the show
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 6:33 am to
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I mean, if nobody lives happily ever after - what kind of "fantasy" is that?


I feel like there has to be some kind of thread of hope and happiness in this storyline for the Starks.

I just don't have a fricking clue where that comes in.
Posted by CootKilla
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:07 am to
Maybe Ramsey flays roose to show their army that he is in charge and not his father. I don't know if there are enough strong men in the north to get Fat Walda up on a pike.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Hafthor Bjornsson—yes, "The Mountain" from Game of Thrones—is a strong man.

A very, very strong man.

On Saturday, he broke his own world record by tossing a 33-pound beer keg just over 23 feet into the air.

According to Giants-Live.com, the big fella was pretty pumped afterward.

"It was easy! I could have broken the roof," he said. "It was amazing to do this in front of the great crowd. Bring on Europe's Strongest Man."
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:46 pm to
I feel as though Rickon will end up a "King of Winter" as in old school Stark gentry. He and his Shaggy Dog are wild like that.
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