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ryanlsu
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re: What is the solution for college sports?
Posted by ryanlsu on 6/9/26 at 9:37 am to CrewsMissile3
The anti-trust exemption is the only way forward for college sports to remain or return to something that is viable in the long term. You have to return to at least a facade of amateurism which will allow you to say that you can get all the NIL you want but if you do you can't play in our league. You can limit transfers and bring back a semblance of the sport we grew up watching.
The way the NCAA is losing in courts right now makes them unable to enforce anything. But a salary cap is a non-starter without an anti-trust exemption or collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is almost a non-starter because it usually takes a couple of years to come to an agreement on those types of things. The Juniors and Seniors that start negotiating will be out of college before the agreement is signed and then the freshman will not have been a part of most of the negotiations. A few years into the deal and nobody that was part of the negotiations will still be part of the union.
Both sides played a part in where we are now. The NCAA made billions for years and I have no idea where that money went. They should have to put some in a fund and pay for continuing education and healthcare for any injuries that occured while playing. I don't necessarily agree with it but they could also pay a stipend to the athletes along with all of their other perks.
The players are overplaying their hand at this point. True NIL would effect .1% of college athletes. The rest is pay to play. Some of the big donors are already getting sick of it. This amount of money cannot last forever. I have had a discussion with a former LSU player who talked about jerseys with his name on it. He thought they bought it because of him. I said they bought it because of LSU and that he played for LSU. If he played for Texas there would be no jerseys with his name on it in Baton Rouge. He said he would sell a lot in Austin though. I asked how many he would sell if he went to ULL and had a all american season. He said not that many. So he finally admitted it wasn't because of his name or even how he played. It was because he went to LSU.
The way the NCAA is losing in courts right now makes them unable to enforce anything. But a salary cap is a non-starter without an anti-trust exemption or collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is almost a non-starter because it usually takes a couple of years to come to an agreement on those types of things. The Juniors and Seniors that start negotiating will be out of college before the agreement is signed and then the freshman will not have been a part of most of the negotiations. A few years into the deal and nobody that was part of the negotiations will still be part of the union.
Both sides played a part in where we are now. The NCAA made billions for years and I have no idea where that money went. They should have to put some in a fund and pay for continuing education and healthcare for any injuries that occured while playing. I don't necessarily agree with it but they could also pay a stipend to the athletes along with all of their other perks.
The players are overplaying their hand at this point. True NIL would effect .1% of college athletes. The rest is pay to play. Some of the big donors are already getting sick of it. This amount of money cannot last forever. I have had a discussion with a former LSU player who talked about jerseys with his name on it. He thought they bought it because of him. I said they bought it because of LSU and that he played for LSU. If he played for Texas there would be no jerseys with his name on it in Baton Rouge. He said he would sell a lot in Austin though. I asked how many he would sell if he went to ULL and had a all american season. He said not that many. So he finally admitted it wasn't because of his name or even how he played. It was because he went to LSU.
re: What is the solution for college sports?
Posted by ryanlsu on 6/8/26 at 5:16 pm to Purple Spoon
At this point legislation is the only way for college sports to survive. It is unsustainable on its current path. The court system used to give a respectful presumption of validity to the organization's "revered tradition of amateurism" from a case in 1984. Once that went away the NCAA is guilty of numerous antitrust infractions.
Basically in order to stop the free for all, the courts will have to go backwards and start ruling on the side of the NCAA again, not likely, or Congress will have to give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption which would allow them to start enforcing some rules again. The biggest problem I see is that the sports guys don't understand the law and the law guys don't understand sports.
Collective bargaining is almost a non-starter. It is difficult for the professional leagues and their deals last 10 years and take years to negotiate and that is with much more uniformity among the union members. In college, the membership would completely change more than twice over a 10 year deal. And if you have all college athletes represented you would have girl back up goalies for soccer having the same voting power as a heisman trophy contender.
They will have to bring back some notion of amatuerism, otherwise you cannot cap NIL. It would be like the NBA telling Michael Jordan that Gatorade or Nike can't pay him over a certain amount.
Basically in order to stop the free for all, the courts will have to go backwards and start ruling on the side of the NCAA again, not likely, or Congress will have to give the NCAA an anti-trust exemption which would allow them to start enforcing some rules again. The biggest problem I see is that the sports guys don't understand the law and the law guys don't understand sports.
Collective bargaining is almost a non-starter. It is difficult for the professional leagues and their deals last 10 years and take years to negotiate and that is with much more uniformity among the union members. In college, the membership would completely change more than twice over a 10 year deal. And if you have all college athletes represented you would have girl back up goalies for soccer having the same voting power as a heisman trophy contender.
They will have to bring back some notion of amatuerism, otherwise you cannot cap NIL. It would be like the NBA telling Michael Jordan that Gatorade or Nike can't pay him over a certain amount.
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It costs $50k for LSU (in state) and $120k (out of state). That is absurd.
And that doesn’t even account for living expense
I'm a young gen xer so I don't really care about the boomer hate but it is so out of control in this thread. First I just went back to school to finish up my degree after 20+ in the work force. And tuition was not what you are saying. From LSU's website:
For Louisiana State University (LSU) in Baton Rouge, undergraduate tuition and fees are roughly \(\$12,886\) per year for in-state residents and \(\$29,562\) per year for out-of-state students. When factoring in estimated room, board, and supplies, the total annual cost of attendance reaches approximately \(\$32,124\) for residents and \(\$48,799\) for non-residents.
Almost every problem yall are attributing to boomers was set in motion way before the boomer generation had any real power.
Education costs skyrocketing - That was started by the government getting involved and starting to guarantee loans for people who had no business going to college. This started in 1965 when not a single boomer was in congress.
Jobs being outsourced and job market declining - Manufacturing peaked in the US in the 70's. The term "rust belt" was first used in 1984. Nafta and the free trade legislation passed in the early 90's. Boomer members made up 1 in 5 members of congress. So roughly 80% were members of earlier generations.
And so on and so on... It was mainly leftist progressive "feel good" policies that have set us on this path. Only rich white people or really smart people get to go to college. Let's loan money to people so that everybody can go to college including to a ton of people who have no business being there.
The American dream of home ownership is unavailable to the poor and people who have made numerous poor decisions so their credit is shite..
Let's guarantee loans and force banks to make loans to people who will probably never pay it back so we can feel good
I went to the LSU-Iowa national championship game and Clark warming up before the game was the most impressive shooting display I have ever seen. And I have seen curry and others warm up before Pelicans games.
And while Aja may be the best right now, she is almost 30. If the wnba folded and there was a new league and all the players were available to draft, Clark or Paige would go first overall.
And while Aja may be the best right now, she is almost 30. If the wnba folded and there was a new league and all the players were available to draft, Clark or Paige would go first overall.
re: The Crash documentary on Netflix
Posted by ryanlsu on 5/20/26 at 3:08 pm to OhioLSUfan
Watching this as an attorney, her defense attorney was incompetent. I truly think he looked at how little evidence the state had and thought they would never get a conviction and he didn’t put in the work for a competent defense.
No witnesses to what happened in the car and her boyfriend had allegedly grabbed the steering wheel when she was driving a couple of weeks prior. Also she was driving 100 mph towards a building and neither dude could turn the wheel bc the 85 pound girl was too strong?
I think she’s trash and probably was responsible. But I’m not sure about beyond a reasonable doubt.
No witnesses to what happened in the car and her boyfriend had allegedly grabbed the steering wheel when she was driving a couple of weeks prior. Also she was driving 100 mph towards a building and neither dude could turn the wheel bc the 85 pound girl was too strong?
I think she’s trash and probably was responsible. But I’m not sure about beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yes. You can’t draw districts based off of race. But districts drawn on political lines are outside of the supreme courts jurisdiction. That is a political question best left to the other branches. Seperation of powers issue.
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Pam Bondi was the slam dunk worst AG this country ever
Eric Holder was AG so your statement is light years away from being the truth. Bondi could have gone to work every day thinking what is the dumbest thing I can possibly do today and then do it and she would still be a better AG than that evil stupid piece of shite.
re: This board's obsession with defunding Women's basketball
Posted by ryanlsu on 3/25/26 at 4:00 pm to Adam Banks
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Well by your numbers from bama it’s save 3 million dollars.
They aren’t my numbers they are the numbers bama fans are bitching about bc they just had their coach stolen by south Florida. They will have to pay their new coach more or drop to the bottom of the sec standings.
I for one would be more pissed off about losing 5-6 million a year and getting blown out by 40 and being last in the sec than losing 8 million a year and competing for national championships.
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You are talking about a nearly $8 million dollar revenue deficit for women’s basketball. If you funded half that into basketball, not only could you help benefit a team that profits, you can cut revenue deficit.
Except you can’t cut the deficit from 8 million to 4 million. Alabama spent the least money on women’s basketball in the sec and had a 5 million dollar deficit. And their coach just left them for a mid major job bc they wouldn’t spend any money.
Mulkey also brings in a revenue with this team. The team brought in over 4 million in revenue while bama’s team brought in 750K. If we let mulkey go and hire a cheap coach our expenses will go down but so will our revenue.
If you look at the expenses for a team in the middle of the conference, ole miss for example. They finished 8-8 in the conference and lost 7.4 million dollars. Do you really want to trade a chance at national championships for permanent mediocrity to save 600k?
When bama just lost their coach to south Florida it came out how little bama funded women’s basketball. They spent the least in the sec and still lost 5 million a year. We lost about 8 million a year. We can drop to about what ole miss’s wbb budget and basically suck and save 1.5 million a year. With an athletic budget of over 220 million a year, should we drop from elite national championship contenders to hoping we can finish top half of the conference to save 1.5 million?
Cool World
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LSU had to crack down on it in 2016 when they realized that nearly every CALI award and almost the entire top 10%/law review clique had gotten extended time.
They haven’t cracked down or they relaxed the rules again after Covid. I had an injury so my 3L year I had to take a couple exams with the “disabled” in Middleton library. I knew some people were getting extra time but I had no idea how rampant it was. I didn’t know where exactly to go so I’m wandering around the 3rd floor of the library and I see a long line with damn near 3/4ths of the order of the coif. It was pretty ridiculous.
He’s not saying surgeons should quit now. But even if he is off by 5 years it is still good advice. If you are thinking about going to med school and being a surgeon you are years away from performing actual surgery. And then you need to start making money to pay back your loans. And even if robots just take over the “routine” surgeries there will still be less demand for surgery.
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4 of our lineman have signed with teams that have been in the playoffs the last 2 years
I think everyone agrees that we would like better OL out of the portal but saying that Tennessee and A&M are vertical moves just because of some quirks of scheduling defies logic.
Everyone agrees the Brian Kelly era was a failure at LSU. But LSU as a program has a ceiling and a floor so high right now that we fired the winningest coach in Notre Dame’s history for going 34-14 (Giving him Wilson’s 2-3 record 36-17). Over the same time period Tennessee is 38-14 and A&M is 31-20 and this is considered golden years for them.
Their playoff appearances were lucky scheduling. A&M went 0-1 against the top 8 teams in the SEC by losing to the 5th place team and 7-0 against the bottom 8 teams including 3 games they easily could have lost. They had 1 good win the entire year with a 1 point victory over Notre Dame.
Tennessee’s playoff appearance was similar as they played 3 good teams all year and went 1-2. Also throwing in a loss to Arkansas. Their best victory that year was over 9-4 Alabama team which finished in a 6 way tie for 4th place in Knoxville. They went 5-1 against the bottom 7 teams in the SEC and 1-1 against the rest of the conference.
By contrast, LSU played four playoff teams this year with three of them on the road and played 5 of the top 7 teams in the SEC.
TLDR: Tennessee and A&M as programs are at absolute best a lateral movie and most likely a move down but due to scheduling quirks some people greatly inflate their program’s status.
re: Outgoing transfers are not making vertical or even lateral moves in the portal
Posted by ryanlsu on 1/9/26 at 11:52 am to JimTiger72
I don’t think either of those teams are that good but A&M especially played an atrocious schedule.
They beat
UTSA 6-6
Utah state 6-7
Auburn 5-7 fired their coach
Miss State 5-8
Florida. 4-8 fired their coach
Arkansas 2-10 fired their coach
LSU 7-6 fired their coach
Missouri 8-5
USC-e 4-8
Samford 1-11
They played three good teams. Notre dame, Texas, and Miami and lost 2 out of the three.
If you consider the SEC standings they played 1 team that tied for 5th place and lost. The next best team in the SEC they played was Missouri who tied for 8th.
If you think Tennessee is better than Missouri than the only team in the bottom 8 of the conference that they didn’t play was Kentucky. Their 7 conference wins came from the worst 8 teams in the SEC.
They beat
UTSA 6-6
Utah state 6-7
Auburn 5-7 fired their coach
Miss State 5-8
Florida. 4-8 fired their coach
Arkansas 2-10 fired their coach
LSU 7-6 fired their coach
Missouri 8-5
USC-e 4-8
Samford 1-11
They played three good teams. Notre dame, Texas, and Miami and lost 2 out of the three.
If you consider the SEC standings they played 1 team that tied for 5th place and lost. The next best team in the SEC they played was Missouri who tied for 8th.
If you think Tennessee is better than Missouri than the only team in the bottom 8 of the conference that they didn’t play was Kentucky. Their 7 conference wins came from the worst 8 teams in the SEC.
It would be pretty tough to form a union when over 50% of your members will be gone in two years. The current cba in the nfl was for 10 years and they negotiated it for a couple of years.
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Read his Farewell Address. It's incredibly isolationist.
It was pretty easy to be an isolationist in 1796. It took 2-3 months to cross the ocean back then. It is incredibly intellectually dishonest to think isolationism in 1796 and 2025 are even remotely comparable.
Are you at LSU law school?
I left school for a great job with about 18 hours left to graduate. Didn’t like what I was doing any more in my 40s so went back to LSU to get my undergrad. It was much easier this time around. It seems the kids in school now do the absolute minimum that the professor requires. Became friends with my professors and did any extra work for credit that they allowed. Got above a 4.0 for those last 18 hours and then decided to go to law school.
Now I’m an attorney making more than I was before with a much better quality of life. I would recommend going back to school for anyone who is unhappy with their career. Life is too short to wake up every day hating what you do.
Now I’m an attorney making more than I was before with a much better quality of life. I would recommend going back to school for anyone who is unhappy with their career. Life is too short to wake up every day hating what you do.
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pull all funding/military support.
I’m all for that as long as we pull all funding and support for the Islamist governments in the region that combined get more money from us than Israel.
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For crying out loud, we saw videos of Tianeman Square and that was 35 years ago.
Tiananmen Square protests lasted 7 weeks and had over 1 million people in the square at some point. Some factory workers demanding back pay, no matter in how many places, is not the same.
China does allow some protesting to blow off steam. I took a couple of Chinese history classes a couple of years ago and we watched some videos that were smuggled out. They let them protest for a little bit, then round up the leaders of the protests, claim that they are corrupt (usually corrupted by capitalism), then shoot them for being enemies of the state. The protests kinda dies down after that.
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