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Champagne
| Favorite team: | Xavier |
| Location: | Sabine Free State. |
| Biography: | Profession of Arms |
| Interests: | Profession of Arms |
| Occupation: | Profession of Arms |
| Number of Posts: | 55456 |
| Registered on: | 10/2/2007 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: Spurs were so confused defensively on the game winner - Got to call TO
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:57 am to JamalMurry27
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What about using the foul to give when the Knicks were in a compromising position in scramble mode…with 5 seconds left the timeout let them
Calmly setup. Dumb
Yep. Good point.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:49 am to FooManChoo
We agree on one thing and disagree on another.
We agree on Just War doctrine as binding on national leaders of all stripes.
We disagree that the Popes since the Middle Ages have promulgated lots of anti-biblical ideas. Your conclusion is based upon your own analysis using your own rules and interpretations of Scripture passages. The Popes, on the other hand, would tell you that they did the same thing - they reached conclusions different from yours using their rules and interpretations.
As for me, Foo, when it comes to deciding on a debate between you and Thomas Aquinas, I will probably side with Aquinas.
We agree on Just War doctrine as binding on national leaders of all stripes.
We disagree that the Popes since the Middle Ages have promulgated lots of anti-biblical ideas. Your conclusion is based upon your own analysis using your own rules and interpretations of Scripture passages. The Popes, on the other hand, would tell you that they did the same thing - they reached conclusions different from yours using their rules and interpretations.
As for me, Foo, when it comes to deciding on a debate between you and Thomas Aquinas, I will probably side with Aquinas.
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Did he define “promote”?
No, he didn't and that is Pope's error. Pope seems to be inclined to continue making vague statements on current events that only lead to confusion. Pope is head of the RCC and he speaks for an independent country, the Vatican.
Pope is politically a Leftist, so, whenever he speaks in vague terms about current events, he's going to sound like a Leftist, which will please Barack Obama but anger many Americans.
Pope Francis started this practice of Pope's saying confusing Leftist things for all the world to hear, and it appears that Pope Leo will continue this practice. A BIG MISTAKE, I say. Pope should focus on Theology, not Politics of the World, when he speaks for all the world to hear.
Pope Leo will alienate and anger many Americans if he continues to speak publically and sound like a political Leftist.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:35 am to FooManChoo
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I'm not arguing as Protestant, but as a Christian who believes the Bible teaches eternal security. You are free to disagree--that's the notion of liberty of conscience that Rome rejects--but I'm not claiming that this doctrine must be accepted by everyone in order to be true.
No need to argue. I'm glad that we agreed that the Doctrine of Eternal Security is not accepted as Truth by many Protestant denominations.
re: Lesbian couple moves to Minneapolis for fresh start, immediately has moving truck stolen.
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:33 am to Night Vision
Leftist are always looking for a hand-out.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:31 am to FooManChoo
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but it's clear that not all war is evil inherently.
You are deviously arguing a fact not in evidence because Pope never said "all war is inherently evil."
You are twisting words again to serve as a platform to bash Roman Catholicism, which is your main reason for being on Tigerdroppings.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:28 am to FooManChoo
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Here is my original statement in the thread, which you replied to: "It's not surprising that the Pope would make such anti-biblical statements. Popes have gone their own way since at least the early middle ages."
I was condemning the Pope's statement as anti-biblical, and affirmed my belief that this is not an isolated example of a Pope going away from what the Bible teaches.
I know that it's inconvenient for Catholics to have a succession of Popes in recent times that say the most absurd, anti-biblical and anti-historical things in light of how it's necessary to submit to the Pope as the head of the church with "full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church" for salvation.
I disagree with your conclusory statements here. There is an alternative and reasonable reading of the rather vague statement of the Pope. Read exactly what he says - he doesn't mention either Trump or the war in Iran. Pope says that a national leader who is a warmonger is not a Christian and I agree with that. Putin is a warmonger and not a Christian. Putin is the best example.
You do agree that the Just War Doctrine is binding on Christian leaders? The RCC Catechism teaches this, also. Pope made no statement intended to contradict the Catechism.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:22 am to FooManChoo
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is absolutely biblical.
Absolutely not so by any objective measure of what the whole of the Bible teaches, including words preached by Jesus Christ Himself.
I contend that it's misleading for you to continue to preach that Eternal Security is clearly taught in the Holy Bible when it is quite clear by any objective reading of Scripture that your contention is inaccurate.
You should be intellectually honest by saying that the Doctrine of Eternal Security is believed by many Protestant Denominations, but, opposed by many other Protestant Denominations. The reason why the issue is contentious is because the Bible itself contains passages that seem to support both sides of the argument.
Let's be intellectually honest, Foo. You know that Protestants don't agree on the Doctrine of Eternal Security.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/12/26 at 9:08 am to FooManChoo
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Not only do the Scriptures provide warrant for just war, but even the history of Catholicism is wrought with support for and even calls to war, even by other Popes.
So this Pope is not only departing from Scripture, but he is departing from tradition, which is why I said what I said.
Nothing that the Pope said overturns the Doctrine of the Just War. That Doctrine is still in place and controlling.
Nothing the Pope said overturns the International Law of Armed Conflict. That law still applies.
The Pope hasn't completely clarified his comment, but, it's clear to me that in his opinion, violations of the Law of War and the Just War Doctrine are un-Christian behaviors. The Muslims wage war ignoring the Law of War and Just War laws, so they are obviously not doing the Christian thing.
It's very tough for Trump to keep nukes away from Iran and clearly abide by these laws. I wish Pope Leo would try to be more charitable towards Trump on this issue. Politically, Pope Leo is kind of a political Leftist, so that alone makes a lot of Americans angry.
So, you're message to us in this thread is that the Bible and the OT specifically teaches that some war is Godly and Biblical? How does that square with Jesus's teaching about "blessed are the peacemakers", in your opinion? In my opinion, Jesus's words condemn a "warmonger" and affirms a view that tries to impose humane rules on armed conflict, including having a Peace Settlement as an objective.
STARTS SOON !!!!
Race car driving in the dark of night is awesome.
Race car driving in the dark of night is awesome.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 10:08 pm to Chuck Barris
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I'm not interested in continuing this discussion because it isn't productive.
You have reached the logical and correct solution. It's a fool's errand to argue about Religion on a message board. Nobody will be persuaded away from their beliefs.
Heck, we can't even get everybody around here to agree that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old and that there were not Dinosaurs on Noah's Ark.
It's irrational to keep arguing about these same issues over and over again. I do appreciate it when folks share their beliefs, but, there's no point in arguing with somebody.
They will have to post guard on that gravesite because there will be many attempts to vandalize it - for years to come.
We are dealing with radicalized bolshevik violent revolutionaries.
We are dealing with radicalized bolshevik violent revolutionaries.
re: Runway near miss today at Harry Reid Airport in Vegas
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 8:46 pm to SloaneRanger
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Glad it had a happy ending. People will just have to understand that diversity in the control tower is the top priority.
I think that we can all agree that it is acceptable to take some casualties as we strive to fundamentally transform the USA.
re: Is it possible to completely defeat an enemy without a ground offensive?
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 8:44 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I believe it might be possible to make Iran submit if we can totally and completely blockade and isolate Iran from the outside world using naval and air power.
re: Woman cop shoots male cop after he pointed a gun at her as a joke
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 8:41 pm to hawgfaninc
She got it completely wrong. The Desk Pop is supposed to go into the ceiling, not into your fellow officer.
Sheeezum. Women should not be cops. Can't do a simple Desk Pop.
Sheeezum. Women should not be cops. Can't do a simple Desk Pop.
re: FEAR HAS ENTERED THE MOSQUES OF BELFAST
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 8:39 pm to tigerfan 64
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These WEF / NWO progressives really don't like it when street revolution goes against their fundamental changes.
No, they don't like it at all when the rabbit gets the gun.
re: FEAR HAS ENTERED THE MOSQUES OF BELFAST
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 8:38 pm to Placekicker
It's up to the Irish people to solve their problems. Their government won't help them.
re: Daycare giving children candy right before leaving if they do not like the parents?!
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 7:25 pm to LSU Coyote
You're complaining about Free Candy??!!??
No way she loses her job.
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Let's be honest. We can't share a country with people who think like this.
I'm ready to seriously consider whether it would have been better if the Confederate States of America had won the Civil War. I seriously think that the CSA could be better than the USA today.
re: Pope Leo: If You Promote War You’re Not A Christian
Posted by Champagne on 6/11/26 at 2:39 pm to Bass Tiger
Results of my research into your non-denomination.
1) It is a denomination that was founded in the year 1965 A.D. The denomination is called the Calvary Chapel Association.
2) There are exactly two CCA churches in the state of Louisiana - one in Baton Rouge and one in Lafayette.
3) Belief in the Rapture.
4) Belief in the Doctrine of Eternal Security.
5) Belief in the Doctrine of the Trinity
Does this describe your church and your personal theology?
1) It is a denomination that was founded in the year 1965 A.D. The denomination is called the Calvary Chapel Association.
2) There are exactly two CCA churches in the state of Louisiana - one in Baton Rouge and one in Lafayette.
3) Belief in the Rapture.
4) Belief in the Doctrine of Eternal Security.
5) Belief in the Doctrine of the Trinity
Does this describe your church and your personal theology?
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