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Why isnt Chrome OS more popular?

Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:42 am
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:42 am
It just seems like a great idea for a lot of people who have zero interest in it.

I was talking to a coworker who asked what I thought of a Dell laptop she was looking at. She uses her personal PC for spreadsheets, word, and storing pics. I tried to pitch her on a chrome book, saying it would be cheaper, meet her needs, be simpler to use/maintain, would be quieter, etc.

She just wasn't interested. Said it sounded too complicated and was worried about saving everything in the cloud :/

What am I missing here? Is chrome OS just ahead of its time? Not marketed enough?
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:45 am to
Poor marketing and can't run any Windows apps.
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:46 am to
ive never done any research on it, but i like the portability of my files


with the cloud based parts of chrome, what limitations are put on me when I don't have wifi available?

Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:53 am to
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with the cloud based parts of chrome, what limitations are put on me when I don't have wifi available?





That's the kicker. You absolutely need an Internet connection. But if you can tether from your phone you're good to go (I've done this a couple of times)

You definitely need to make a couple of conssessions and like SG said, you can't do things that require full blown windows/OSX applications, but for people who aren't heavy desktop users its a good option IMO
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:55 am to
The answer has to be tablets.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:10 am to
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saying it would be cheaper


but how much cheaper? if a chrome book is 250 and I can get a windows laptop for 350, I'm going to go with the full fledged laptop every time.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:20 am to
Microsoft is supposedly rebranding Windows with Windows 9. If they stray too far from the Windows name, it might muddy the waters enough on what a desktop OS is supposed to be that people might start thinking about computers that don't come with Windows.

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sounded too complicated and was worried about saving everything in the cloud


I know Google apps are able to handle working offline, but fully embracing cloud storage is a big leap not even factoring in privacy concerns. You aren't asking them to trust Google to keep their cloud up for them, you're asking them to trust Cox and AT&T to not go out the night before a paper is due.

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Is chrome OS just ahead of its time? Not marketed enough?


People don't buy operating systems, they buy computers. If you're not tech savvy you're going to buy what you've always used, what your friends have, or what you use at work. It's kind of a chicken and egg situation, more people won't use an OS like Chrome until more people start using an OS like Chrome. That's probably why Google is going hard after the classroom.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:34 am to
i've looked into chromes as a secondary work computer, and people who push chrome OS do not realize how much of a limiting factor that having to be connected to the internet is
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 10:35 am
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:17 am to
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but how much cheaper? if a chrome book is 250 and I can get a windows laptop for 350, I'm going to go with the full fledged laptop every time.


Good point, but if you're on a budget and really don't need a full fledge machine (and you actually recognize that...I suppose most people wouldn't) that $100-$200 is a huge differentiator.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:26 am to
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Microsoft is supposedly rebranding Windows with Windows 9. If they stray too far from the Windows name, it might muddy the waters enough on what a desktop OS is supposed to be that people might start thinking about computers that don't come with Windows.


This is what actually is pushing me away from windows for personal use. Not saying that the direction MSFT is going is bad but it was a good opportunity for me to think about what I actually wanted for a desktop computer.

You raise an interesting question though, what is desktop computing nowadays and what will it be in the future, because I think most of us still view it the same way we did 15 years ago.

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I know Google apps are able to handle working offline, but fully embracing cloud storage is a big leap not even factoring in privacy concerns. You aren't asking them to trust Google to keep their cloud up for them, you're asking them to trust Cox and AT&T to not go out the night before a paper is due


Very good point. It's definitely not for everyone, but I think it's worth a look for people who are comfortable in google's cloud ecosystem (I think most people are somewhat comfortable with Google) and have a reliable connection or a good backup connection.

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People don't buy operating systems, they buy computers. If you're not tech savvy you're going to buy what you've always used, what your friends have, or what you use at work. It's kind of a chicken and egg situation, more people won't use an OS like Chrome until more people start using an OS like Chrome. That's probably why Google is going hard after the classroom.


Another good point. My kids are using Google docs a good bit in their classes now. Maybe Google is playing the long game and looking 10 years down the road.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:28 am to
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i've looked into chromes as a secondary work computer, and people who push chrome OS do not realize how much of a limiting factor that having to be connected to the internet is


This is a good point. I guess the way I think about it is that I can always tether from my phone in a pinch. Most people probably don't want to rely on that.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:48 am to
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I can always tether from my phone in a pinch


You have to think like the average user though. I guarantee you that if I told my wife the cable was out but her computer would work again if she just tethered it to her phone, that wouldn't be a satisfactory answer. What seems elementary to you and me can be quite foreign and scary to the average user.

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what is desktop computing nowadays and what will it be in the future, because I think most of us still view it the same way we did 15 years ago.


Desktop = Productivity, Content Creation, and any Content Consumption that benefits from a big screen or input device. There's nothing saying it can't be cloud based other than the reliability level of our internet connections. I can see a not too distant future where our phone's are our PCs and when we need desktop functionality we either dock/connect it to a traditional Monitor/Keyboard/Mouse, or maybe we go Minority Report and our phone projects a holographic interactive interface.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:31 pm to
You have to sell your soul to Google. Things are bad enough. But they'll know every single stroke of your keyboard.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:33 pm to
isn't chromebook a step in the right direction though? being able to buy hardware without the cost of an overpriced OS included?

think of how much cheaper laptops would be if they were sold 'ala carte' without Microsoft or Apple installed on them by default.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Croacka
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:46 pm to
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think of how much cheaper laptops would be if they were sold 'ala carte' without Microsoft or Apple installed on them by default.



basic laptops are pretty damn cheap as it is


i bought a windows 8 laptop a few months ago for 279 or something like that.....while i don't know the prices of hardware/components, i have a tough time believing the software really inflated the price of that 279 laptop
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:47 pm to
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think of how much cheaper laptops would be if they were sold 'ala carte' without Microsoft or Apple installed on them by default.


They've sold Chromebooks to schools for $99. I don't know if that was below cost or at cost, but either way I imagine they consider it a long term money maker. Google has the potential to disrupt any market they enter because of their advertising based business model.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Posted by Message CAD703X Why isnt Chrome OS more popular? isn't chromebook a step in the right direction though? being able to buy hardware without the cost of an overpriced OS included? think of how much cheaper laptops would be if they were sold 'ala carte' without Microsoft or Apple installed on them by default.


Yeah more choices is always better. For people on a real budget and third world countries it's a good choice. But nothing is free. You're giving your privacy up for all that free stuff. That's fibe as long as you understand that
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

being able to buy hardware without the cost of an overpriced OS included?

think of how much cheaper laptops would be if they were sold 'ala carte' without Microsoft or Apple installed on them by default.


OS X is free and you can install what ever you want. I have been booting to Linux a little here lately.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:41 pm to
I have a Chromebook and an ASUS Chromebox and enjoy both of them for personal use

If I have to take work home I just use the laptop provided for me by my employer

It has some limitations but for the cost it's a decent home PC setup
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