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Record player recommendations?

Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:39 pm
I thought about posting this on the Music Board, but figured I'd try here first.

I'd like to buy a nice middle-of-the-road record player. Loved the sound of one as a kid (I'm 49) and feeling nostalgic. Miss that slight crackle and warm sound.

Any recommendations? I'd like to keep it under $500 for budget constraints. Not really sure what options are available. Pure sound quality would be my first priority in that budget range.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 12:31 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35549 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:23 am to
U-Turn Audio

Very nice beginner turntables and you can spend less or more than your budget. I have a U-Turn and it works great.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 6:10 pm to
Awesome! That site looks like it might have something for me. Thanks!

Btw, what type of speakers and other audio equipment are you using in conjuction with your turntable? Happy with them?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:17 am to
Music Hall, Fluance, Rega, U-Turn, and Pro-Ject. Take your pick. I personally think the Fluance RT-85 is the best bang for the buck in the price range given the Ortofon Blue cartridge. I think U-Turn is better at the $400 range but the U-Turn Special @550 comes with an Ortofon Red cartridge which is a step down from the Blue. The Red is a $100 cartridge and the Blue is a $200 cartridge.

You ask about other gear which begs me to make sure you have a receiver/integrated with a phono input. If not you will need a phono pre-amp which could change the whole discussion.

It would also be helpful if you listed the gear you plan to use the turntable with just to make sure your aren't overspending compared to your gear unless you plan to upgrade it. You could also be understanding your associated gear but your budget is set so that isn't an issue.
Posted by CoolBerth
Member since Apr 2024
5 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:43 am to
For a budget of up to $500, you can find several excellent record players that offer great sound quality and a nostalgic feel. Here are a few recommendations:

- Audio-Technica AT-LP120XUSB - This is a direct-drive turntable with a built-in phono preamp, USB output, and adjustable tracking force. It offers solid performance and build quality for the price.
- Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC - Known for its excellent sound quality and minimalist design, the Debut Carbon DC features a carbon fiber tonearm and a high-quality Ortofon cartridge.
- Rega Planar 1 - Rega turntables are known for their musicality and simplicity. The Planar 1 is a belt-drive turntable with a low-vibration motor and a high-gloss finish.
- U-Turn Audio Orbit Plus - The Orbit Plus is a great entry-level turntable with a precision tonearm and a low-resonance acrylic platter. It offers good sound quality and customization options.
- Denon DP-300F - This is a fully automatic turntable with a built-in phono preamp and a sleek, modern design. It offers a good balance of features and sound quality.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35549 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:34 am to
I have an NAD Masters Series M33 driving my system and Dynaudio Special 40 speakers. I love my setup.

That said, speakers are something you need to listen to if at all possible. I love silk dome tweeters as I find metal twetters to be harsh and fatiguing to my ears. Others swear by metal tweeters and drivers.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 3:57 am to
I'm very much a beginner at this, so watching videos this weekend.

I'm thinking I'll try to buy things separately. As in, turntable (no preamp), standalone preamp, amplifier and passive speakers.

This assuredly blows my budget out, but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:38 am to
Technic
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 3:46 pm to
Any brands that one should avoid?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:12 am to
quote:

I'm thinking I'll try to buy things separately. As in, turntable (no preamp), standalone preamp, amplifier and passive speakers.


Getting the best bang for the buck in audio is a holistic approach. Do you have an overall budget? Unless you have a healthy budget a separate pre-amp and amp probably doesn't make a lot of sense, an integrated amp is likely to get you more bang for the buck.

Also if you are starting ground up I suggest picking your speakers first. This will have an impact on what amplification you will want/need. Do you want streaming and/or a CD player or just a turntable as your front end?

quote:

Any brands that one should avoid?


If you are just talking about turntables every brand listed ITT which includes most of the usual suspects are solid. Because turntables like speakers have a large mechanical portion they tend to be farther from perfect than amps and preamps, as in they impart their own sound into the music. While you can choose the best objective measuring speakers like Genelec or Neumann active monitors because even they aren't perfect speakers are like choosing a flavor of icecream.


If you give me a little info to chew on I promise you I will write more than you ever want to read about the subject. Audio is one of the subjects I can talk about all day. If you get me going I will also pontificate about one of the most important parts of audio systems that is by far the most overlooked... room acoustics. Room acoustics are as important as the speaker choice and together they make up the VAST majority of the quality of reproduction. It just isn't as sexy as shiny new gear. Also beside budget it is also useful to know the primary genre(s) of music you listen to.


Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27068 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:17 am to
Posting so I can check back in on this later. I always appreciate your deep dive posts on subjects you’re passionate about, Obtuse
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:34 pm to
I'm pretty much a clean slate on this subject. Just remember loving the sound as a kid.

Always end up blowing out my budget when it comes to a hobby. Pool (pocket billiards). Metal detecting. Astronomy. I don't generally buy THE best, but look for the absolute best bang for the buck.....then take a hard look at the next step up.

I hate buying something cheap and then thinking that I could have spent a bit more for much better quality.

As for room acoustics, might toss that out the window in my case. A simple bedroom for now, but hope to build a new house in a couple of years with a dedicated library room that doubles as a place to just sit and contemplate while listening to music. So, that variable will change over time.

I honestly don't mind being patient, picking out components, and then purchasing one at a time so as not to make it such a difficult nut to bust.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25639 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Always end up blowing out my budget when it comes to a hobby. Pool (pocket billiards). Metal detecting. Astronomy. I don't generally buy THE best, but look for the absolute best bang for the buck.....then take a hard look at the next step up.


One thing to note is there has never been a time in the history of audio reproduction to build a 2 channel system on a budget.

quote:

I hate buying something cheap and then thinking that I could have spent a bit more for much better quality.


I am with you. That being said I have never known anyone that got into the hobby and bought their end-game system at ther beginning. Tastes change, wallet changes, understanding changes, and price/performance ratios change in what gear is available. You can spend a load to begin with then realize you bought chocolate ice cream (no matter how good) when you realize you are a vanilla fan. Sometimes you can switch out components and get your vanilla and sometimes you are hamstrung and have to clean slate it again to get vanilla.

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As for room acoustics, might toss that out the window in my case. A simple bedroom for now,


While you might not be starting with a room with the Golden ratio (1x1.6x2.56) you can always improve room acoustics and broadband absorption and dispersion panels can be used in your next room. I wouldn't use targeted low frequency absorption in a temporary room but you wouldn't have done that anyway. Just treating the first points of reflection will fundamentally change the quality of a system and it won't break the bank especially if you DIY the panels. Some 1x4 material, some of the correct insulation, some acoustically transparent fabric, and a little work and you have a quality broadband absorption panel. Acoustic treatments, especially if you DIY, are the best bang for the buck in audio. It is also the thing that most people avoid doing all together. It is kinda like buying a new Ferrari and putting the tires off a Camry on it. Normally the biggest issue with acoustic treatments is the SAF (spousal acceptance factor).
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3184 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:34 pm to
Following as well. Must have played the Oak Ridge Boys 45 Elvira till the grooves were gone
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
983 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:57 pm to
I distinctly remember wearing out The Bellamy Brothers, Teddy Pendergrass, Merle Haggard, Charley Pride and Conway Twitty when growing up in the 70's-early 80's.

Then cassettes came along.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35549 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:35 am to
To add a little to what Obtuse stated.

Speaker pplacement is critical Bookshelf speakera aren't meant to be placed on bookshelvs and speakers on stands need space from the wall behind them. Experimenting with placement leads to better sounding speakers.
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