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re: Oh this is why people hate cable companies....

Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:50 pm to
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That doesn't seem that difficult to accomplish, or expensive, inside a tv.


Well in retail terms, you just added about $400 to the cost of the tv.
That Hauppauge WinTV sick runs about $100 and a 1TB M.2 SSD will run about $300.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Well in retail terms, you just added about $400 to the cost of the tv.
That Hauppauge WinTV sick runs about $100 and a 1TB M.2 SSD will run about $300.


if i can buy a tv that fully supports dvring anything on the screen with nothing else to buy, i'd happily pay that.

but of course, that wont happen. too many cable lawyers.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:00 pm to
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One remote for everything.
Is that really an advantage though? Universal remotes are overrated IMO. We turn our TV on and off basically once per day. We adjust the soundbar volume on occasion. More than 95% of our button presses are for controlling the Roku, so why would I want all of those other buttons in the way all the time? The Roku (or FireTV) remote is small, light, and has minimal buttons. It's easy to grab and navigate without looking at it. I don't have to press any extra buttons to select what device I'm controlling. A remote for a TV with built in stuff would necessarily be bigger and harder to use without looking.
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no boxes.
Streaming boxes (or sticks) are so small they're practically invisible. You can velcro the box to the back of the TV if it bothers you. IMO a separate box is a huge advantage due to flexibility.
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I'm not buying new boxes that often.
You don't think you'd buy them more often than you buy TVs?
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That wouldn't make a whole lot of sense as a cord cutter to buy new streaming boxes often.
Why not? Is it a cost thing? A cordcutter could buy 5 or 6 new boxes every year with the savings from cutting cable.
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I will use the current Roku's and Firetv's i have until they die or there is a very very significant upgrade in their capabilities.
I think you will be happy to replace a sub-$100 box instead of a $1k TV in that case, right?
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I'm not the guy that goes out and buys the new Iphone every year like an idiot.
While that is silly, it's not the same thing. Your idea would be more like making the iPhone and Macbook inseparable. So 3 years from now when you want a new phone, you have to buy a new laptop too.
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This little thing is capable of recording tv off my antenna, plugged into my computer, working through an app.

This little thing is capable of storing tons of hours of recorded shows.

That doesn't seem that difficult to accomplish, or expensive, inside a tv.
Why no picture of a computer? You show the tuner and the storage, but you forgot the little detail that there needs to be hardware to run the OS and apps that do the heavy lifting. Still, no, it's not exceedingly difficult or expensive. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to do it considering TVs and streaming boxes tend to get upgraded on totally different intervals. Also, again, why would I want my media stored on a particular TV rather than on a separate device that all of my others devices can access as well?
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28618 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 5:37 pm to
I see a lot of blame to the cable companies themselves in this thread but a lot of the problems you guys are complaining about are dictated by the programmers to the cable companies.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28709 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:02 pm to
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I see a lot of blame to the cable companies themselves in this thread but a lot of the problems you guys are complaining about are dictated by the programmers to the cable companies.

How does that prevent them from treating their customers with respect and being upfront with their pricing?
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