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Need advice on my cord-cutting setup

Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:22 pm
I live in the great city of Alexandria and my main goal is to get all Saints, LSU and Pels games and digital antenna tv in all rooms. Here's what I have atm in my 2bedroom single story duplex.

Suddenlink unlimited internet
LG 4k in living room
Led smart tv in master bedroom
PS3 and Lcd tv in kids room.
Netflix
Prime
Cheesy walmart digital antennas
Iphones, ipad and android phones if it matters any.

I want live streaming on all tvs with recording capabilities in the living and master bedrooms if possible. Not mandatory though. What's a decent option to upgrade antenna tv in all rooms? Zip code is 71303 if it helps. Im avoiding anything attic/rooftop. And I'm not tech savvy so enlighten me on things like vpn, which is something im interested in. Thanks in advance.

Edit: I've tried for a few weeks to figure out what I want but I end up with a head combing through the threads and trying to decide whats best.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10026 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:02 pm to
I would see if your cable cords from previous installs all connect somewhere. You could put the antenna there and it would feed to each room of the house.

A simple way would be to put fire sticks in the 3 rooms and use Kodi for most streaming sports cartoons TV and Movies

Then it kind of depends on what is important to you.

PS Vue is a good option since you can use it on 5 devices at once.



Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:14 pm to
PS Vue should get you Fox Sports and ESPN for Pels and LSU games. A digital antenna would get you Saints games and the rest of the LSU games.

quote:

I want live streaming on all tvs


The PS Vue thread suggested the interface is pretty bad (sluggish) on the PS3. Supposedly works fine on PS4, Roku and Amazon Fire boxes. I don't recall on the sticks, I want to say I remember seeing about poor performance on the older versions of the Roku/Fire sticks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

quote:

with recording capabilities


PS Vue comes with a cloud based streaming DVR, but you only have access to a show for 28 days. I don't know if that's a problem for you or not. If it is there is software called PlayOn that runs on a PC acting as a media server that lets you DVR most shows for networks that have streaming apps, from HBOGo to ABC, even NetFlix and Prime.

PS Vue will not let you DVR show that come through the Antenna though. There is a device called Tablo that lets you DVR that content.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:30 pm to
I am not quite sure what the use of a DVR is for someone who's cut the cord. Every single show I want to watch is available on Kodi. If you are going through all the setup, including a streaming device such as a fire tv, Roku etc., you can just install kodi and use Exodus to get access to any TV show and movie you can think of. Unless you are trying to DVR sports.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61480 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Every single show I want to watch is available on Kodi


Not everyone desires to stream illegally. 10 years ago I paid $150ish for expanded cable plus HBO/Cinemax/Starz/Showtime/etc. Today PS Vue + HBONow + NetFlix + Starz + Showtime = $90 In 10 years the amount of the content you have access to has increased and the price has come down a good 40%. That's a good deal. If the millenials decide TV should never cost anything we're going to end up with nothing but Lowest Common Denominator crap a la Idiocracy. Stealing TV isn't a victimless crime, we're stealing good quality content from our future selves. Is this really what you want, ads taking up 2/3 of the screen and crap that makes Real Housewives look like Masterpiece Theatre?

Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10026 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:59 pm to
During live football games if friends are over I like the ability to pause and rewind. The TIVO OTA is supposed to do this but I'm not sure how it works
Posted by XanderCrews
Member since Mar 2009
774 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 6:05 pm to
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Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:01 pm to
Thanks my people! This was very helpful. I'll update once I make the final decision.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23060 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 5:00 am to
I have the TiVo Bolt as a DVR for my OTA digital signal. It has a "one pass" where if you want to access a show and it is available on Netflix, Prime or Hulu you can do it through the TiVo and don't have to switch inputs.

We have SlingTV for college football and a few other cable channels.

You can set up mini tivos in other rooms that can access the main Tivo but i think there is some additional wiring required for that that is a bit beyond my technical expertise.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 6:47 am to
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You can set up mini tivos in other rooms that can access the main Tivo but i think there is some additional wiring required for that that is a bit beyond my technical expertise.



OTA signals are uncompressed MPEG2 and generally require more bandwidth than wi-fi can handle, which is why Tivo requires a wired connection for the Minis, either ethernet or MoCA (multimedia over cable). The Tivo devices all come with a MoCA adapter built in which allows you to use existing cable TV wiring to connect if you are not wired for ethernet.

Tivo is a mature consumer product that works flawlessly out of the box. Your grandma would not have any problems operating this device. Tivo has just introduced new pricing on the four-tuner Tivo Roamio, $399.99 which includes a lifetime subscription to the program guide. The Tivo Minis are about a hundred bucks each. All of the Minis have full function, same as the main Roamio unit. BTW, the Tivos all have the major streaming apps like Amazon, Netflix and Hulu built in so for most people a second streaming box (Roku or Amazon Fire TV) is not needed.

The Tablo is a relative newcomer to the DVR market. A two-tuner model is offered but I wouldn't recommend that for a family. The four-tuner model sells for $299.99 but does require a subscription to the program guide for about five bucks a month. The Tablo price does not include a hard drive so you would have to add the cost of an external drive if you want DVR functions. Tablo is a wireless device that compresses the OTA signal to MPEG4 which can be streamed over wi-fi to devices like Roku and Fire TV. I would call it a partial Tivo and be wary of purchasing one.

You are going to have to get creative to get access to the sports packages. It appears that you don't have a local CBS channel and you're not going to pick up the one 60 miles away with an indoor antenna. You may want to look at Sling TV or paying for ESPN3 on a friend's cable account that would let you stream it to a Roku device. Others may have more experience in this area.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 7:18 am to
quote:

I like the ability to pause and rewind. The TIVO OTA is supposed to do this but I'm not sure how it works


The Tivo records every show you watch and then immediately sends the recorded stream to your TV. When you pause, it continues to record so you can resume without losing anything. It also gives you instant replay.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 7:22 am
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 8:06 am to
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enlighten me on things like vpn


A VPN is a secure tunnel over the internet that allows your PC to act as if it were on the local network at some remote location. People who work at home can access their office network as if they were locally attached. External communications such as e-mail appear to originate from the office IP address, not your home computer address. VPNs are also used to hide your real IP address or to make it appear that you are located in a different country. This is useful with sites like Netflix, for example, which has different offerings depending on your country of origin. Torrent users downloading pirated material can shield their identity by appearing to come from some anonymous IP address.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 8:15 am
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