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Home power monitor
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 2:59 pm
Can anyone recommend me a good AC ammeter / power consumption monitor? I'm fine with an Amp or kw/h reading.
Basically want something that plugs into wall outlet, and then I can plug any 120V device into it with it reading the current/power draw.
Thanks
Basically want something that plugs into wall outlet, and then I can plug any 120V device into it with it reading the current/power draw.
Thanks
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:08 pm to CP3
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:32 pm to CAD703X
says it is not sold in stores. Also read some reviews that it can short out and melt 
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:34 pm to CAD703X
cad what was that one you posted a while ago where you could monitor everything.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:53 pm to CarRamrod
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:01 pm to Korkstand
was it you that posted it?
Do you know how well they work. I would really like to find out what is sucking up my power
Do you know how well they work. I would really like to find out what is sucking up my power
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:10 pm to CarRamrod
No, it was CAD, but I remembered it.
I don't know how well it works, but it seems like it might need some "training". For the price, though, it might be worth getting one just to see how useful it is.
There is another whole home energy monitor called Sense, but personally I would lean toward Neurio because of the open platform.
I don't know how well it works, but it seems like it might need some "training". For the price, though, it might be worth getting one just to see how useful it is.
There is another whole home energy monitor called Sense, but personally I would lean toward Neurio because of the open platform.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:22 pm to Korkstand
yea if the "learning" consistes of going and pluging in and slipping all switches so it learns its pattern, im ok with. But im afraid it wont know one set of lights from the other.
Plus im setting up a whole aquarium on a coontroler, so idk how it will tell the difference between all that. I just feel it might be able to see power changes but not pin point it to the Amazon Fire in bedroom vs the 4 others, or the multitude of electronics i have plugged in at my house.
Plus im setting up a whole aquarium on a coontroler, so idk how it will tell the difference between all that. I just feel it might be able to see power changes but not pin point it to the Amazon Fire in bedroom vs the 4 others, or the multitude of electronics i have plugged in at my house.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:23 pm to Korkstand
these are the logical next HA step because you add this into an intelligent app/ecosystem and you can take tremendous control of your house over.
why in the world apple or google hasn't put a stake in the ground & nailed this category is beyond me.
i feel like i could grab a few good developers and sort this whole thing out.
you got x10 & zwave plus wink and smartthings paving the way of what is POSSIBLE but they're just not quite 'getting it'.
i can see the vision, why cant they?
why in the world apple or google hasn't put a stake in the ground & nailed this category is beyond me.
i feel like i could grab a few good developers and sort this whole thing out.
you got x10 & zwave plus wink and smartthings paving the way of what is POSSIBLE but they're just not quite 'getting it'.
i can see the vision, why cant they?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:26 pm to CarRamrod
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yea if the "learning" consistes of going and pluging in and slipping all switches so it learns its pattern, im ok with. But im afraid it wont know one set of lights from the other.
Plus im setting up a whole aquarium on a coontroler, so idk how it will tell the difference between all that.
its all about digital power fingerprints.
these devices are supposed to 'learn' what device is what (you might have to help it originally with names) based on the distinct power 'noise' each one makes.
whether thats complete bullshite is a different story..but in theory it sounds plausible.
once it knows which fingerprint is what, you suddenly have an incredible amount of insight into what is actually going on in your house and it can tell you when when your HVAC is kicking on or your washing machine is running, etc. even with fridge & other things already running.
eta with LED lights, honestly who gives a damn. they use about 2 cents of electricity a month so plan to manage them with your WINK or whatever hub and let the appliances & stuff talk to the whole-home monitor.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:28 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
Plus im setting up a whole aquarium on a coontroler, so idk how it will tell the difference between all that.
This is my main reason for wanting one. I want to see how much I'm pulling in with my lights, pumps, heaters, etc. Would be nice for other things around the house as well.
That's why I was wanting a receptacle type device as opposed to the whole-home panel devices.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:28 pm to CAD703X
right. but how does it know if it is amazon fire 1 2 or 3. or lamp with the same bulbs 1 2 or 6
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:29 pm to CP3
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That's why I was wanting a receptacle type device as opposed to the whole-home panel devices.
that $18 one isn't in stores but they have some that are.
i have one right now i'm taking back in my car
but i cant remember if its lowes or HD.Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:30 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
right. but how does it know if it is amazon fire 1 2 or 3. or lamp with the same bulbs 1 2 or 6
you shouldn't care. those don't use enough power to amount to a hill of beans.
you want it to monitor your 65" tv, cable box, w/d, hvac, fridge, PC, microwave, stove, etc.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:34 pm to CP3
you big in to aquariums? we should set up a reef tank thread on one of the boards. IDK what board it should go under.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:37 pm to CAD703X
i know the main things but once all that is straigtend out i would ike to see where the power is coming from as far as fiance leaving shite on. Even though most of my bulbs are now LED.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:42 pm to CarRamrod
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as far as fiance leaving shite on
almost every bulb in our house is smart in some way now for the same reason.
they never change.
luckily mr. wink schedules everything so at worst, its only on for a short period of time if she turns them on before the schedule fixes it.
she used to drive me nuts leaving the lights on in the living room all night (for safety reasons) so now i just have mr. wink turn that all out at 11:45 and back on at 6am and she never knows the difference.
also turn them off again at 9am and back on at 4:30 and she's quite happy with that. she feels like everything is 'on' when she wants it on now.
eta except when she moves shite around!
i have to go hunt down the lamp with a smart bulb because its in another room or she moved the lamp off the smart outlet to a dumb one.
enough to drive a man to drink. good thing she's cute.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:45 pm to CarRamrod
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you big in to aquariums? we should set up a reef tank thread on one of the boards. IDK what board it should go under.
Yeah I'm pretty into them. I had a nice reef setup at my apartment in college, but I lost it all when my apartment caught on fire. Luckily I salvaged all of my live rock though.
Now I have a 90g setup with a handful of fish. Just dropped a candy cane coral into it as the first coral. I'm kind of gun shy going back to reef after losing my last one.
I do have a badass touch screen controller/monitor I made with an Arduino for it though. Once I get it all sorted out ill post some pics. Here's an old one I have from when I was building it.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:49 pm to CP3
yea i ended up getting a Apex cause i didnt feel any of the DIY controllers were stable enough. Plus i have too many other projects going on right now and i needed to get my system stablized. my zoas were in bad shape when i got by from a trip and everything was all out of whack.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 4:57 pm to CarRamrod
I'm an EE, so it was more of a fun challenge for me.
It's more for indication than control right now. Just graphs temps and water level. You can't get much more reliable than the tried and true christmas light timer for lighting
May look into automated dosing in the future. But that scares me too.
It's more for indication than control right now. Just graphs temps and water level. You can't get much more reliable than the tried and true christmas light timer for lighting
May look into automated dosing in the future. But that scares me too.
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