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Help with new wifi and security cameras...

Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:51 am
I have security cameras outside of my home - I was able to utilize an app on my phone to monitor footage, however, recently I had faster wifi installed in my home with a new router. Now, I cannot utilize my app on my phone to see footage. Anyone have any experience with this problem and what was the solution?

Thanks...

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:56 am to
Sounds like you have wifi cameras and your new router has a different wifi name/password. The easiest solution is to change your new router wifi name and password to exactly the same as your old one. The cameras remember these old details and should get right back online. The less easy solution is to reset each camera individually and reconfigure them for the new wifi.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:24 pm to
Actually, they're hard wired cameras. Just the app on my phone won't work. I can still see footage from my monitor - which is hooked up to the camera DVR.
Posted by VABCHTIGER
South Boston, VA
Member since Sep 2007
317 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:37 pm to
I had something similar happen - I used the same name and password on the new router, but the app would not recognize it. I had to reset the cameras (just like installing them when new) to get them to work on the app. Worst case for you might be to remove and reinstall the app.
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
896 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:40 pm to
Is your security camera system using a static IP configuration? The new router might be using a different subnet than your old router.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:47 pm to
Not sure. I'm sort of ignorant when it comes to my security camera system. I just know that I can still see my camera footage from my monitor which is located by my camera DVR system, but not on the app on my phone any longer. The cameras are hard wired - not wireless.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14267 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 2:24 pm to
If you're connected to your wifi on your phone at home can you see the cameras? Most likely a port issue on your router.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Actually, they're hard wired cameras. Just the app on my phone won't work. I can still see footage from my monitor - which is hooked up to the camera DVR.
In that case, it sounds likely that your NVR picked up a different IP address on your new router and your phone app was configured for the old address. And in the case of a DDNS configuration (which allows you to access your cameras away from home) you will need to reconfigure the ddns on your new router as well as port forwarding to your NVR.

Did you or someone else configure your cameras originally? Most new-ish systems use a P2P "cloud" service which avoids this type of issue.
Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
512 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 1:21 pm to
I had the exact same problem and spent over a week of time, frustrated and trying everything possible. Finally, by deleting my account completely from the app, then setting up a new account, just like my first time getting the system, and also wiping all information from my security system DVR, it works.

I think what happens is that the old user names, passwords, settings and many other things are somehow being applied, even though you think you are overriding them.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5806 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:28 pm to
I have a similar issue and figure I’ll ask about it here:

I have a hardwired camera DVR system. I monitor it with the NVMS7000 app. I have 2 devices setup- one for when my phone is connected to my home wifi, and another for when I’m away from home.
When I’m home a can view my cameras with no problem. When I’m not home connected to wifi, most of the time I can’t view the cameras. I can reset the dvr and it usually works for a day or 2, but then back to “connection failed.”

I’m assuming it’s some sort of IP address issue? It would make more sense to me if it never worked, but it confuses me that sometimes it connects and sometimes it doesn’t.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 8:45 pm to
So the way IP's work is your home internet connection has a public address which your router acquires from your ISP, and then everything inside your home on your network has a private address which your router hands out. Most routers are configured for DHCP, which means it will hand out private addresses to devices kinda-sorta at random, though most routers remember your devices and try to give them the same private IP address on your network. So if your camera app has an IP address typed in for your "home" setup, this is why it keeps working when at home even if your recorder reboots - it will almost always have the same private IP.

Your public IP might change every few days. You have no control over this, your ISP just hands them out as it sees fit. For this reason, if we have a reason to connect to our home while away, we usually use a DDNS service. Most routers have a few options here, and what ends up happening is instead of trying to keep updating your home's public IP address in your camera app, you just put your DDNS name (like maybe myhome.dyndns.org) and your router will update that listing whenever it detects your public IP has changed. Further, in order to connect to a specific device on your home network, you need to configure port forwarding on your router so that it knows what you want to connect to. For example, you might configure port 8888 on your public IP to connect to port 80 on device 192.168.1.100 on your private network.

That's a lot of shite to configure and keep working to set up a camera app.

So to make this whole thing a lot simpler (and more secure!), most manufacturers do what's called P2P or cloud connections now. Usually you will just use the app to scan a QR code that your NVR gives you and you're done. This is obviously a lot easier, but it's also more secure because you don't have to poke any holes in your router's firewall (that's what port forwarding does, and it's generally a bad idea).


So first things first, do you know anything about how your system is set up? Usually with the P2P setup it's just one "device" in the app and it figures out whether you're home or away on its own, so since you have two devices configured I'm assuming you have the whole DDNS and port forwarding method going. Can you confirm? Also do you know how to check whether these settings are correct?
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5806 posts
Posted on 4/27/23 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Korkstand


This seems like a lot of good info that should help me get to the bottom of this mess.

I’ll check in tomorrow from work and can post screenshots and maybe give some more details. Thanks a bunch!
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5806 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:48 am to
I have an LTS DVR, and there is a QR sticker on it. I tried starting from scratch last night with the LTS app, and scanned the code and it said it could not connect my device to the home network. Which is funny because it is wired to my router through a switch. And last night my original setup was working on my "remote" device.



I don't know where the IP address came from for my Remote setting, the installer set it up a few years ago when we installed the system. I have tried to contact them in the past but get nowhere. I have been dealing with this issue for a couple of years, and it is really annoying. I am about to go on a trip for over a week and would like to be able to keep an eye on things at home.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:42 am to
I would delete that remote mode IP address entirely. You masked out the last part but that leaves only 254 guesses for someone to try to poke into your network on port 8000.

So I'm pretty certain that the reason that remote mode works sometimes but sometimes not is because your actual IP address is changed from time to time by your ISP. You can go to https://www.whatismyip.com/ from your home network to find your current IP address, and if it doesn't match the settings in your camera app then it's not going to work.

You need to log in to your router and configure a dynamic DNS (DDNS) service. Most routers have options like DynDNS and maybe a few others. Almost all of them have a free tier plan. That will entail signing up and choosing a domain name, then putting your login details in your router settings. Once that's done, your router will keep that domain name updated with its IP address and your home can always be reached via your domain name. You will then have to put the domain name as the remote address in your camera app rather than an IP address.

After that remote access should continue working (until there's some other problem).

And going forward I would try to figure out why the QR code scanning feature didn't work. It's possible that LTS shut down their cloud connection service, or there may be some other issue.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5806 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:56 pm to
Awesome, thanks for the info. I will give this a shot tonight.

A little more info- I have the AT&T BGW210 modem/router.

I put the router into passthrough mode in order to let the Google Wifi take over. Does this change anything in your instructions?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:55 pm to
That means your AT&T modem/router is only doing the modem stuff and google wifi is handling the routing. Unfortunately, I think google wifi is one of the rare routers that does not have DDNS functionality built in. In order to use a DDNS service you will need to install a small program or "applet" provided by the service on a computer that hopefully already runs all of the time. That program will handle the IP updates. Any device can handle this task, it's just most convenient when the router does it. I do not know whether the AT&T modem could handle this instead.
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