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Help re: PlayStation Vue setup

Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:34 pm
I’m looking into canceling DirecTV after my latest bill increase. Based on channel selection, I think I’ve landed on PlayStation Vue.

I’ve read the cord cutting threads, but I’m still confused as to what I actually need to purchase. What do I need to set up 5 TVs on PS Vue? I have a PS3 but no other devices that I can stream from (that I know of). I believe I’ve got each tv wired for internet rather than running off WiFi. Do I need a Roku for each tv? Or is there a better option for setting up? Thanks!
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37597 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:40 pm to
You need a smart device on every TV unless the TV is already a smart TV.

You need to test it out before you do anything.

1. Will your wife or family like the functionality of streaming TV

2. Will your internet be able to hold up? Live streaming isn't the same as streaming Netflix. What is your internet speed right now?

3. Do you have a data cap on your internet? You need to find out if you do, and how much you are currently using. It'll shoot up if you go to streaming (especially if more than 1 person is watching at a time).
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:03 pm to
Every TV is a smart tv.

My family will be on board.

I’ve got ATT fiber optic, my plan is ATT 100, unlimited data. I usually run about 95-125 mbps upload and download.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Do I need a Roku for each tv?


I've found fire TV to be far superior to Roku for PSvue. I have a Roku smart TV and the interface is so awful for PSvue I bought another fire tv to use on it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61543 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Every TV is a smart tv.


Doesn't necessarily matter. They need to support the Vue app. See if they have a Playstation Vue app, if not then you probably need to choose between Roku and Fire TV and get one for each TV.

Roku is a simpler main interface but Fire TV is good enough interface and has Alexa Voice Assistant support (saying "Alexa change channel to ESPN" will launch the PS Vue app and change to ESPN, not to mention pause, rewind, fast forward, etc.). Also, for PS Vue specifically, the Fire TV app is better than the Roku version as was mentioned above.

Roku and Fire both come in cheaper stick forms vs. a little more expensive boxes. You can probably get away with the sticks on your secondary TVs, but on your main TVs you'll want to get the box form factor as they have better hardware and will provide a better experience.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:53 pm to
Thank you! And purchasing those products is just a one time purchase, not a subscription, correct?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61543 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:01 pm to
Correct. Roku, Fire TV, Apple TV are all just streaming devices you hook up to your TV that let you access the stuff you pay for like Netflix or Playstation Vue.
Posted by chadams4lsu
Celina Texas, by way of Rayville La
Member since Aug 2005
76 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:05 pm to
Do you have ATT wireless as well? I was sold on PSVue except for not having the History Channel. I did research on DirectvNow as well, and found out I get $15 off of DTV now and $15 off ATT Fiber as well as military discount on Fiber. Totally worth it for me.
I pay $75 for 1gig fiber, $45 for DTV Now with Just Right package, 3 streams, and HBO. Saving about $100 from Dish.
Running wires ROKU Ultras on 2 TVs, the free Roku from ATT on another and an old Roku on another.
We hardly ever run 3 TVs at the same time. Picture is just as good if not better.

TLDR: if you have ATT wireless you are eligible for $15 off each ATT fiber and Sirectv Now.
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:03 pm to
Thanks for the info! My wireless is through work, but I will look into DirecTVNow. Kind of a bummer that I’d have to get 3 of the Fire cubes at $120/unit, then fire sticks for the other 2. I guess you gotta really be sure you want to cut the cord.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61543 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Kind of a bummer that I’d have to get 3 of the Fire cubes at $120/unit,


Sorry, I didn't realize that Amazon discontinued the "dongle" version of the box and replaced it with the Fire Stick 4K. I haven't used the Fire Stick 4K and it does have a little less RAM than the dongle, but it might be all that you need on your 4K TVs. You should probably get one and give it a shot as a primary streaming device.

Regarding the Fire Cube. The Fire Cube is a Fire TV + an Echo Dot + an IR Blaster for controlling devices that use IR based remotes. It may be more than you need for your TVs, especially if the 4K Stick works out. Another quirk is that in order to make sure the integrated Echo device hears your commands, it will pause the TV when you tell it something. I personally would find that annoying and like my set up of having the Fire TV and Echo as separate devices.

Also, if you're willing/able to wait, every 2-3 months Amazon puts their devices on sale so you can pick them up 20%-40% off.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Chanandler Bong
Member since Dec 2014
62 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:57 pm to
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, $50 per TV is easier to cope with. In terms of voice control, I’m pretty ok not having that. Honestly, I’d rather my kids not have the ability to change the channel that easily. Without it, I can just hide the remotes if need be.

When you say less RAM, does that mean the streams could be glitchy/have issues loading?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61543 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:11 pm to
The original sticks buffered more and were more laggy than the boxes and many people attributed that in part ot having less RAM. The sticks had 1 GB of RAM compared to 2 GB in the boxes. The 4k Stick has 1.5 GB of RAM. Is that extra .5 GB of RAM enough to limit the buffering and interface lag? I don't know, that's why if I were you I'd get one of those 1st, see how it performs. At worst you put it on the kids TVs and have to buy 3 cubes. At best you don't need a cube unless you want some of the other features it has.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 7:12 pm
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:45 pm to
the 4k stick is very nice for ps vue

and to whomever above was upset about history channel, vue has American heroes channel which is much better
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2018 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:04 am to
quote:

And purchasing those products is just a one time purchase, not a subscription, correct?


Look at it this way, how would you watch DirecTV on any tv? You hook up a box to it. Fire TV, Roku, etc are all devices that you hook up to the TV in order to access Vue and a multitude of other services.

The only thing you subscribe to is the service itself. The streaming devices are just the means in which to access them.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3813 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:20 pm to
I sub to both PS Vue Core and Philo (which has History and other Viacom channels) - covers everything we want to watch.
Posted by lsusaint86
Thibodaux
Member since Nov 2009
139 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

The 4k Stick has 1.5 GB of RAM. Is that extra .5 GB of RAM enough to limit the buffering and interface lag?


With my experience, the 4K stick processor is exceptional especially compared to the older sticks. I have not had any issues in regards to buffering or lag.
I also have a Roku premiere, but I find the 4K stick to have a faster interface.
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8182 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 7:41 pm to
I had PSVue for about a year. I switched to youtube TV and I like it better FWIW. Pretty much the same channels, and youtube (depending on your location) gives you all the local channels. When I had Psvue I had to log into the CBS app to watch LSU football games. Youtube gets CBS unless you live in the middle of nowhere. Its also a little cheaper
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4469 posts
Posted on 1/13/19 at 8:27 am to
Is there a workaround for YoutubeTV and Amazon devices yet? Last time I knew Fire devices did not have YoutubeTV in their app store.
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