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Cox Data plan, data meter

Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:45 am
I am getting an error when I log into my account to monitor how much data I have been using and looked into the error and came across this message from support:

"Hello,

If you do need more data, we are introducing additional data plans soon, including an Unlimited option. New data plans will be available later this year. Options, pricing, and other details will be shared at that time. As a reminder, Cox provides a grace period of two Consecutive billing cycles. If you are ever charged for going over the data cap, and have router logs to submit to us for the month in question. You can dispute the overage and we will look into it at that time. You would just need to contact us thru Twitter at @CoxHelp, visit us on Facebook, or email by at cox.help@cox.com."

FYI

So, I am already paying like $80 a month for internet and they want to try and gouge more. This is what happens when there is no competition, they can do whatever they want.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125412 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:26 am to
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So, I am already paying like $80 a month for internet and they want to try and gouge more. This is what happens when there is no competition, they can do whatever they want.


I have Cable One and pay $100 a month with a 700GB data cap
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:28 am to
I'm having Cox installed today. What do their plans cap at?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:54 am to
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I'm having Cox installed today
prayers sent.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:55 am to
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I'm having Cox installed today. What do their plans cap at?
Wait, you mean they didn't advertise and/or tell you about the limits of their service? Strange!

It's 1TB, which may sound like a lot right now, but I assure you that it's not. Sure, most people probably won't hit the cap in the next 5 years if they also pay Cox for TV, and that's what they want. The caps are in place to "persuade" people not to stream TV over the internet.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:03 am to
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The caps are in place to "persuade" people not to stream TV over the internet.


It's not working for me....I have 1 child and we have never been over 800GB in a month. We are conscientious about turning the devices off when we aren't watching. We also don't watch TV in the morning either. So basically we have one TV that might stay on from 3PM - 9PM on a daily basis (probably more on weekends). My wife and I sporadically watch TV...we have found other ways to live other than sitting in the living room flipping channels on the remote without actually watching anything like we used to do when we had cable. Now we have specific things that we want to watch that we do watch. Other than that we are usually outside or doing something like playing board games with our daughter. Cord cutting isn't simply a cost saving tech thing to do....it does require somewhat of a process/lifestyle change. It has been a very healthy decision for us....I can't see us going back to consuming TV media like we used to.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:06 am to
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"Hello, If you do need more data, we are introducing additional data plans soon, including an Unlimited option. New data plans will be available later this year. Options, pricing, and other details will be shared at that time. As a reminder, Cox provides a grace period of two Consecutive billing cycles. If you are ever charged for going over the data cap, and have router logs to submit to us for the month in question. You can dispute the overage and we will look into it at that time. You would just need to contact us thru Twitter at @CoxHelp, visit us on Facebook, or email by at cox.help@cox.com."


I'd bet my next house note that this is going to F up the 1TB limit for all service levels....what a piss off if it does. 1TB is the sweetspot for me as of right now.
Posted by jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:11 am to
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It's 1TB, which may sound like a lot right now, but I assure you that it's not. Sure, most people probably won't hit the cap in the next 5 years if they also pay Cox for TV, and that's what they want. The caps are in place to "persuade" people not to stream TV over the internet.


Yup.
And in many (most) markets, the ISP/Cable Provider has a monopoly on the service. At the very minimum, I think they should have to do what utility companies do before raising rates/changing service agreements - go before a judge and convince him/her first.
Data caps for cable internet are total BS 99% of the time, and the few times they are warranted it should be a minimum of 1TB.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:17 am to
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It's not working for me....I have 1 child and we have never been over 800GB in a month. We are conscientious about turning the devices off when we aren't watching. We also don't watch TV in the morning either. So basically we have one TV that might stay on from 3PM - 9PM on a daily basis (probably more on weekends)
Like I said, 1TB sounds like a lot right now. But give it a year or two, and you'll be hitting 1TB a couple weeks into the month. If you're hitting 800GB on occasion streaming in 1080p, that's going to jump to about 3-4TB if you start watching stuff in 4k.
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My wife and I sporadically watch TV...we have found other ways to live other than sitting in the living room flipping channels on the remote without actually watching anything like we used to do when we had cable. Now we have specific things that we want to watch that we do watch. Other than that we are usually outside or doing something like playing board games with our daughter. Cord cutting isn't simply a cost saving tech thing to do....it does require somewhat of a process/lifestyle change. It has been a very healthy decision for us....I can't see us going back to consuming TV media like we used to.
How old is your kid?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:20 am to
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But give it a year or two, and you'll be hitting 1TB a couple weeks into the month. If you're hitting 800GB on occasion streaming in 1080p, that's going to jump to about 3-4TB if you start watching stuff in 4k.


Assuming 4k will be the only option then you are 100% correct.

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How old is your kid?


4
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:21 am to
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Data caps for cable internet are total BS 99% of the time


Correct!!!!
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2800 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:49 am to
I have cox Internet but no TV.

Have 2 kids who stay on the net a lot. Lots of youtube.

Wife and I have a hulu sub and amazon prime sub and hbo now sub.

However we really only watch two shoes. .GoT and she watches some paranormal twilight supernatural soap opera...

Also do a lot of online gaming..and streaming from twitch and streaming Sonos music..

we have yet to get close to 1tb, however if/.when the 4k movies bc std available .that is when shite is going to get real.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89951 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:50 am to
I have not gone over 1TB yet but I knew something was up with Cox when my data did not keep going up past 177gb.

I was using Playstation Vue but for the last month 1/2 back on DirectvNow.

Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:59 am to
I called Eatel (Who we are switching from) and they are unable to tell me how much data we use because they don't track it. I guess we will see what happens...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:01 am to
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Assuming 4k will be the only option then you are 100% correct.
It will be a long time, if ever, before 4k is the only option for streaming. Point is your ISP is going to force you into a sacrifice one way or another in order to limit your TV options. They have the power to place artificial limits on their competition, and that's messed up.

I don't know whether the transition from HD->4k will take more or less time than SD->HD, but an all-4k world will be here relatively soon. And Cox and friends have already prepared by putting caps in place. 1TB is one of the highest caps I've seen, and that'll get you maybe 100 hours of 4k video, or around 3 hours per day. Still seems manageable until you realize that has to be split between all family members and TVs/devices. Then on top of that you have regular internet use, which these days can use a substantial amount of bandwidth. The average webpage is over 2MB. TD is one of the most "lightweight" sites around, and this very page weighs in at 1-3MB, depending on ads. And speaking of ads, many of them just keep sipping bandwidth as long as the page is open. Are you also careful to close your browser when you're finished like you do with your TV? Facebook can easily cost 10megs/minute just scrolling through your feed, or a lot more if you play a few videos. And website sizes are growing fast.

ISPs like to talk about how few of their customers actually hit their caps, and a lot of people think they will never reach them. It won't be long before all of this comes to a head.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:12 am to
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I called Eatel (Who we are switching from)
Why are you switching from Eatel? I switched away from Cox and went TO Eatel (it was ClearChoice and Eatel acquired them).
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they are unable to tell me how much data we use because they don't track it.
Eatel should be screaming that from the rooftops.
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I guess we will see what happens...
I'll take a guess... you may be satisfied for a while, but in a year or two you'll have a 4k TV (if you don't already) and a 4k streaming device (if you don't already), and many of the new shows on Netflix & Amazon, and maybe even the streaming TV services like Sling/Vue/DTVNow will start streaming some 4k.

And you will like it so, so much. And then you will start hitting your data cap, and Cox will start dinging you for $10 every 50GB you go over. In other words, once you reach your cap, you will be charged about $2 PER HOUR to watch 4k video. They've figured out how to turn every show into PPV.

And then you will wish you had stuck with Eatel.
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2800 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:14 am to
Nail on head Kork.

This is the foundation of the buisness model change that all ISPs lobbied FCC and congress over. This will be part of their strategy moving fwd when the new Net Neutral packages come out.
Posted by FlipNDipN
Marietta, OH (ES LPT)
Member since Jan 2015
573 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:34 am to
Fu*k Cox......
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by btr08ex
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
453 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:36 am to
We've had the Eatel Lightwave bundle for two years. For the first year it was $135, second year $165. We just started our third year and it's $225. Also, we have their dual band router and the 2.4ghz signal has to be switched to another channel about every 4 hours for it to work.

I do have a 4k TV and my contract with Cox will stay at $165 for 2 years with the Silver package. So 2 years if there is a lot of 4k streaming, I'll switch to something else. Also, Cox has 30 day money back guarantee, so I'll monitor it for the first couple of weeks to see how we are doing.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:38 am to
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This will be part of their strategy moving fwd when the new Net Neutral packages come out.


Correct me if I'm wrong but net neutrality doesn't address data caps right? That's why I think the consumer loses either way with net neutrality.
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