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Best wifi Router for vertical range
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:14 am
Moving to a new house and it’s basically 800 sqft box of 3 Floor’s and a basement. If I get a TP-Link AD7200 or a Netgear Nighthawk X-10, should I have enough coverage to run an Apple TV on the top floor of I put the router in the center of the main floor?
Or should I be looking at the new Google WiFi System? FWIW the House is not networked.
Or should I be looking at the new Google WiFi System? FWIW the House is not networked.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:46 am to BACONisMEATcandy
The Google WiFi three pack might be overkill for 800 sqft (even if it's three floors) but I would go with that.
Put one pod on each floor. It's an incredible product. You won't be disappointed. It's also very easy to set up.
Put one pod on each floor. It's an incredible product. You won't be disappointed. It's also very easy to set up.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:48 am to AlbertMeansWell
Can only one be hooked up via Ethernet? Also how would it work with Apple TV if I have to be logged in from a google acct to use a device?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:55 am to BACONisMEATcandy
most routers should be able to cover that.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:56 am to BACONisMEATcandy
The only way to know for sure if you can get by with one router is to try it, but I wouldn't count on it being very reliable.
I'm not sure if antenna orientation changes the signal in the vertical/horizontal direction very much, but just the fact that you're going through floors in addition to walls is going to weaken the signal. Wood itself doesn't block much signal, but the moisture in the wood can cause problems. If there is a bathroom between the router and Apple TV, you're going to have headaches.
Long story short, you'll probably be happier going with the Google Wifi or something similar.
I'm not sure if antenna orientation changes the signal in the vertical/horizontal direction very much, but just the fact that you're going through floors in addition to walls is going to weaken the signal. Wood itself doesn't block much signal, but the moisture in the wood can cause problems. If there is a bathroom between the router and Apple TV, you're going to have headaches.
Long story short, you'll probably be happier going with the Google Wifi or something similar.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:01 pm to CarRamrod
quote:Maybe, but I think the signal will be very spotty. Have you tried using one router for multiple floors? It's not fun.
most routers should be able to cover that.
Signal strength tends to drop quite a bit just going through walls on the same floor, and that's when going through them perpendicularly. When you go up or down a floor, the signal usually has to penetrate on a long angle, which would be like going through 3 or 4 times as much material.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:53 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
Buy router with the best horizontal range.
Rotate router 90 degrees about a horizontal axis.
Rotate router 90 degrees about a horizontal axis.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 12:58 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Plume pods may work better in this scenario. Each individual pod is weaker than google wifi but you can spread more of them around as needed.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:08 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Though the Google Wifi mesh system is an easy to use product, it does not perform as well as most other mesh systems.
OP, are you just wanting wifi coverage, or are you looking for the best wifi speeds? If "best of the best" speeds aren't a concern, then the Google Wifi mesh should 100% handle your scenario. If you do want better speeds, look at the Netgear Orbi and Linksys Velop mesh systems. Better coverage, better speeds than the Google Wifi.
Oh yeah, mesh systems are a tad pricey, so be prepared to open up your wallet.
OP, are you just wanting wifi coverage, or are you looking for the best wifi speeds? If "best of the best" speeds aren't a concern, then the Google Wifi mesh should 100% handle your scenario. If you do want better speeds, look at the Netgear Orbi and Linksys Velop mesh systems. Better coverage, better speeds than the Google Wifi.
Oh yeah, mesh systems are a tad pricey, so be prepared to open up your wallet.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Buy router with the best horizontal range. Rotate router 90 degrees about a horizontal axis.
This is the most practical answer. If your existing router has external antennas, then you only need to turn them so they are parallel with the floor. That will make your vertical range equal the advertised range.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:30 pm to cribbsjy
quote:Assuming this is true and that the antenna in question focuses the gain in a plane, then you'll have to turn it so that the signal is strong in the direction of the Apple TV upstairs.
If your existing router has external antennas, then you only need to turn them so they are parallel with the floor. That will make your vertical range equal the advertised range.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:34 pm to cribbsjy
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Linksys Velop
Thanks, I think I am going to give this a shot
Posted on 10/18/17 at 1:41 pm to Korkstand
Current router is a combo router/ modem
I am hesitant to run anything by google because all of our devices are apple.
I am hesitant to run anything by google because all of our devices are apple.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:48 am to BACONisMEATcandy
I wasn't going to mention it, but since you said you might give it a try, I have the Linksys Velop mesh system (with 3 nodes). It is pricey, so keep an eye out on CamelCamelCamel and try to get it on sale (Black Friday around the corner, might be cheap on Amazon).
(Unintended humblebrag incoming)
I am pretty happy with the mesh. 100% coverage through 2900 sqft (2 floors). My gigabit connection, paired with the Velop, allows me to stream Netflix, SlingTv, WatchEspn, etc all at the same time without any hiccups. Using the Velop in "bridge mode" (no DHCP, just wireless access for the ATT router) results in faster speeds than using the Velop as the router (which is needed to have access to all of the extra features that Velop provides). I'm considering going back to bridge-mode, but not ready to give up yet; I'd like to think there is something I can do to get my speeds back up to where they were.
I think I got the 3 node setup for about $320. Would I buy it again? In a heartbeat. I dabble in smarthome technolgies, and it is nice that each node has a Zigbee transmitter built into it, thus expanding the Zigbee mesh. The cost is the pill that is tough to swallow; if you can get past that, then the Velop is awesome.
(Unintended humblebrag incoming)
I am pretty happy with the mesh. 100% coverage through 2900 sqft (2 floors). My gigabit connection, paired with the Velop, allows me to stream Netflix, SlingTv, WatchEspn, etc all at the same time without any hiccups. Using the Velop in "bridge mode" (no DHCP, just wireless access for the ATT router) results in faster speeds than using the Velop as the router (which is needed to have access to all of the extra features that Velop provides). I'm considering going back to bridge-mode, but not ready to give up yet; I'd like to think there is something I can do to get my speeds back up to where they were.
I think I got the 3 node setup for about $320. Would I buy it again? In a heartbeat. I dabble in smarthome technolgies, and it is nice that each node has a Zigbee transmitter built into it, thus expanding the Zigbee mesh. The cost is the pill that is tough to swallow; if you can get past that, then the Velop is awesome.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:50 am to cribbsjy
Thanks. I am just going to bite the bullet. I'm also going to give the nest security system a shot so I want to have as much coverage as possible until they release the cellular component
This is my current router/modem - do I need to upgrade it to this?
My comcast service is Up to 200 Mbps
This is my current router/modem - do I need to upgrade it to this?
My comcast service is Up to 200 Mbps
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:31 am to BACONisMEATcandy
Your current modem should be plenty fast. The key is does it have a gigabit ethernet port, which it looks like it does. IMO, start with getting the Velop, run tests, if you find the results are subpar, update the modem. If the modem makes no difference, return it.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:47 am to cribbsjy
Would your answer change if I upgraded to 1000 mbps service?
Thanks for all your help?
Thanks for all your help?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:59 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
The Velop system is very good. I would recommend it to anyone with concerns about Wi-Fi coverage in their home.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 2:49 am to BACONisMEATcandy
Best bet is to buy multiple routers and run Ethernet from your modem if you have trouble with Wi-Fi.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 9:13 am to BACONisMEATcandy
If you can, skip the expensive wireless router or mesh system and go Ubiquiti APs. Yeah, you have to run cat5 and use a POE switch, but you won't regret it. With MU-MIMO now used by more and more things, these routers don't last nor can they handle the load and range at the same time, especially with an up down multiple floors situation. Best part of APs is the same SSID with a seamless transition wherever you are in your structure. And the speed is always fast and not bogged down. Your cell phone using WIFI calling will be instantly better too.
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