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Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:56 am
Posted by stat19
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:56 am
How do you stop text messages from going through the Apple cloud?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:09 am to
Settings>messages>iMessage ON [OFF]
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:22 am to
Just want to have it said, you'll no longer basically be getting free texts. Everything you send now will count as one instead of some imessages that dont count against your allotment.

That said if you have unlimited texting, doesn't really matter.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:23 am to
Was walking upstairs behind a woman yesterday who was bitching she had her new android phone for over a week and had not received a single text from her friends in that time. Not. One. She was pissed.

I shook my head.. Can't believe this is still going on.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:25 am to
Settings>messages>IdontwantmySOreadingmytexts>off
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Settings>messages>IdontwantmySOreadingmytexts>off


lol...

It's not me - I wouldn't own an Apple device if you put a gun to my head. I was asked the question and didn't know the answer so I thought I'd ask here.

Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Was walking upstairs behind a woman yesterday who was bitching she had her new android phone for over a week and had not received a single text from her friends in that time. Not. One. She was pissed.

I shook my head.. Can't believe this is still going on.



What steps do you propose that Apple should take in order to stop this? When she signed up for iMessage, she was setting it up so that text messages sent to her phone number from iOS and Mac users would be forwarded through iMessage. And now that she doesn't have a device capable of receiving iMessages, she's pissed. All she had to do is disable that text message forwarding on the iPhone before getting rid of it, or if she was unable to do that, use Apple's online deregistering tool to do so.

Yes, that tool wasn't always available and it was more difficult of a headache. But the problem is solved now. It's no different than if I lost my cell phone, and had my cell phone # forward to my home phone in the mean time, and then when I get a new cell phone I start bitching because I'm not receiving any calls. Well, I have to turn off the damn forwarding, duh.

So if you think there's something more that Apple should be doing, what is it?
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 8:49 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:49 am to
quote:

I wouldn't own an Apple device if you put a gun to my head


and they say the pro-Apple crowd are religious nuts.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:52 am to
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But the problem is solved now.


tell that to the poor woman who's not technical and just assumed she would get texts when she bought a new phone.

easy for us 'techies' to laugh at her because we know of all these workarounds but are you really arguing she's the one at fault here?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

easy for us 'techies' to laugh at her because we know of all these workarounds but are you really arguing she's the one at fault here?


Is she the one that turned iMessage on in the first place? then yes. completely her fault.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

So if you think there's something more that Apple should be doing, what is it?


1. They need to totally rethink the way iMessage works. The current implementation is broken.

2. They need to send an SMS to the user asking if iMessage should be turned off, probably after it's been no more than 24 hours since the device last retrieved messages. They shouldn't hold undelivered messages for a week, much less over a fricking month as they've been doing.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:35 am to
quote:

easy for us 'techies' to laugh at her because we know of all these workarounds but are you really arguing she's the one at fault here?



Of course. She bought an Apple product and used Apple software to run it. Then she dropped Apple and moved to the competition. Are all her Apple software and programs supposed to work on her new phone? Does Window Mobile and Android software work on Apple phone for someone that switches?

Tough shite...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Is she the one that turned iMessage on in the first place? then yes. completely her fault.

Absolutely, totally, 100% wrong. Apple designed iMessage to work 'seamlessly' with regular SMS, right? They want the user to forget what's going on behind the scenes, right? And at what point in the process of turning on iMessage is the user informed that their text messages will be hijacked?

Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Settings>messages>IdontwantmySOreadingmytexts>off
exactly. Or just uncheck all options except phone #.. No emails
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
11175 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:40 am to
You got one thing right--
quote:

Apple designed iMessage


And they designed it to work on Apple products.

Show me anywhere where they claimed iMessage would work on competition products...
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Of course. She bought an Apple product and used Apple software to run it. Then she dropped Apple and moved to the competition. Are all her Apple software and programs supposed to work on her new phone? Does Window Mobile and Android software work on Apple phone for someone that switches?
Uh, no, but there's no piece of software in the Android or Windows world that PREVENTS SOFTWARE/SERVICES FROM WORKING ON ANOTHER PLATFORM. It is absolutely indefensible, so stop trying.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

And at what point in the process of turning on iMessage is the user informed that their text messages will be hijacked?


you mean it doesn't say "WARNING TURNING ON THIS FEATURE WILL RESULT IN MISSING TEXT MESSAGES IF YOU BUY A NEW PHONE.....PROCEED??"



I thought that's what it says when you enable the feature.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Show me anywhere where they claimed iMessage would work on competition products...
Show me where they inform the user that using iMessage will prevent totally unrelated services from functioning...
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11175 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Uh, no, but there's no piece of software in the Android or Windows world that PREVENTS SOFTWARE/SERVICES FROM WORKING ON ANOTHER PLATFORM. It is absolutely indefensible, so stop trying.




Ugh know. It was designed to work on Apple products. When does it become Apple's issue to work on other platforms? Last time I checked the internets were chocked full of proprietary software.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Ugh know. It was designed to work on Apple products. When does it become Apple's issue to work on other platforms?
They don't have to make software that works on other platforms, but do they not have a duty to deliver messages that were entrusted to them to deliver? People expect text messages to be delivered, and Apple is absolutely failing here. They could send the user a text, or an email, or even a fricking robo-call, they could do SOMETHING to let the user know that they have messages waiting.

But I take back the 'failing' part. They know exactly what they're doing, and they're succeeding.
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