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re: Nba nfl athletes in the soccer world
Posted on 8/1/13 at 6:54 pm to lsu480
Posted on 8/1/13 at 6:54 pm to lsu480
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I highly doubt any pro soccer player is slower than the average message board poster, no matter how slow he is!
The dude's nickname when he played for LA was "Snowshoes" because he ran like he was wearing snowshoes.
I assure there are plenty of people that post here that can outrun him, though I imagine the 5-6, 280 pound armchair QBs probably drag the average time down a bit.
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 6:55 pm to Sheep
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I assure there are plenty of people that post here that can outrun him,
I assure you that you are correct. I also assure that 50% of the board cannot outrun him.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:00 pm to lsu480
Let us not forgot that the OT contains the greatest collection of athletes ever assembled.
I am confident we could field a Champions League quality side with the prowess of the OT ballas.
For real though, soccer is so much more than just pure athleticism. I know it is totally different, but think about baseball where the pure athletes are not always the best. Soccer involves a high level of skill and technique (unless you play the last reign of Stoke).
I am confident we could field a Champions League quality side with the prowess of the OT ballas.
For real though, soccer is so much more than just pure athleticism. I know it is totally different, but think about baseball where the pure athletes are not always the best. Soccer involves a high level of skill and technique (unless you play the last reign of Stoke).
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:11 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I agree that there are some athletes overlooked soccer because of its lack of prominence, but people like Lebron, Garnett and others would probably not make it. They are too tall, which would make them clumsy on the ball. If a soccer player is 6'4, he's considered a giant. The players in other sports that are likely to be good at soccer are undersized point guards, wide receivers or cornerbacks. Even if they played their whole lives, with the way we teach technical skills, they would probably be middling pros.
Soccer is a game of skill and technique. That is in addition to all the other natural athletic talents that separate good players in other sports from average players. If you aren't good on the ball, I mean in the top 1%, you probably aren't going to make it. Even if you can control the ball, if you don't have the athleticism required for big leagues, like endurance, speed, strength, you probably won't make it.
Soccer is a game of skill and technique. That is in addition to all the other natural athletic talents that separate good players in other sports from average players. If you aren't good on the ball, I mean in the top 1%, you probably aren't going to make it. Even if you can control the ball, if you don't have the athleticism required for big leagues, like endurance, speed, strength, you probably won't make it.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:12 pm to RickySauwce
Yeah I can ...
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:30 pm to crazy4lsu
Exactly. I really do not see how Lebron would be great. Maybe in goal or as a big arse cb who could come forward on corners and set pieces?
I want to believe Chris Paul would be amazing because he has the ball skills in the NBA, he is not too tall, vision that is too good for his teammates, etc. It is obviously with a ball in his hands, but it is fun to think someone like CP3 could do it.
Plus, without the infrastructure of the elite European nations, athleticism can only go so far. shite, we are already an athletic, well conditioned, and fairly big in size on the USMNT. The big dudes like Lebron do not have the right type of endurance either.
I want to believe Chris Paul would be amazing because he has the ball skills in the NBA, he is not too tall, vision that is too good for his teammates, etc. It is obviously with a ball in his hands, but it is fun to think someone like CP3 could do it.
Plus, without the infrastructure of the elite European nations, athleticism can only go so far. shite, we are already an athletic, well conditioned, and fairly big in size on the USMNT. The big dudes like Lebron do not have the right type of endurance either.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:37 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Exactly. I really do not see how Lebron would be great. Maybe in goal or as a big arse cb who could come forward on corners and set pieces?
well zlatan is 6-5/6-6 so lebron isn't that much taller than he is...and he's not much different than jan koeller
i think it's possible. he'd murder people at CB though
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Zlatan and Koller are outliers. Zlatan has amazing foot skills for a man his size, and Koller was a poacher in the body of a power forward. Lebron is an amazing athlete, but who knows if he could possess the foot skills to even play CB.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Zlatan is also skinny as frick and more of a badass by far.
Lebron would just oaf it up in soccer. He is far too physical to be a goal threat outside of headers. His superior strength would be helpful, but it would not be nearly as advantageous as it is getting to the rim.
He could be everything we wanted to be Gooch to be (if he has the necessary ball skills).
Lebron would just oaf it up in soccer. He is far too physical to be a goal threat outside of headers. His superior strength would be helpful, but it would not be nearly as advantageous as it is getting to the rim.
He could be everything we wanted to be Gooch to be (if he has the necessary ball skills).
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:47 pm to RickySauwce
I played soccer with dez white, he played wr in the NFL for 5 or so seasons... pretty sure he was on the state odp team a few times
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:48 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:49 pm to crazy4lsu
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Zlatan and Koller are outliers
to be fair, so is lebron
i'm saying it's POSSIBLE. i honestly think soccer does have issues with getting too caught up in prototypes (like all sports, but the best examples is QB height). it's still amazing to me that guys like koeller and crouch got to play ST through the ranks
taller CBs like the seahawks CBs definitely have the foot skills
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think the Brits especially have an obsession with size at CB. When is the last time we saw an English CB under six foot? If Cannavaro and Puyol were British, they would never get close to CB.
In truth, there shouldn't be a size distinction in soccer.
In truth, there shouldn't be a size distinction in soccer.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:08 pm to crazy4lsu
Hell even Mascherano plays CB in Spain sometimes.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Richard Sherman is 6'3". These huge corners in Seattle are still roughly five inches shorter than Lebron.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:38 pm to PTBob
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Hell even Mascherano plays CB in Spain sometimes.
He's actually a better CB than DM in my opinion. His biggest problem as a DM was that he fouled a little too much, but he's a good player for Barca.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:45 pm to crazy4lsu
I'll agree with that.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 7:20 am to SlowFlowPro
While it is true there is a tradeoff between size and coordination, the NBA is absolutely the pinnacle of finding an optimal point on the spectrum.
Lebron would be at or near the top in every physical category for soccer, but his coordination is also in the 99.99th percentile in the world. I don't think it's correct to dismiss Lebron's prospects.
Lebron would be at or near the top in every physical category for soccer, but his coordination is also in the 99.99th percentile in the world. I don't think it's correct to dismiss Lebron's prospects.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 7:30 am to RickySauwce
did this thread get moved here from the MSB? i'm trying to figure out who the frick some of these people are on the first page.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 7:50 am to acgeaux129
His footwork could be shite even if he trained to play soccer for years. He simply could be too tall.
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