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MLS Expansion Thread: Teams 25-28 Up for Grabs (12 applicants)

Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:48 pm
Today was the deadline for MLS expansion groups to submit applications. Some are interesting, others were foregone conclusions.

Indy
St Louis
Nashville
Sacramento
San Antonio
North Carolina
Cincy
St Pete's FL
San Diego

Feel Free to add. Talk is that Sacramento and St louis are the favorites for 25/26
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:05 pm to
I made the following post in the San Diego thread but it seems relevant to your thread as well so I will post it again here:


quote:

Mike Stone, the leader of a prospective MLS ownership group, hand-delivered San Diego's expansion application bid to MLS Commissioner Don Garber in an event held on Monday afternoon on the deck of the USS Midway in San Diego. The city's mayor, Kevin Faulconer, and MLS legend Landon Donovan also attended the event.


Barring a wrench in the plans, such as student pressure that forces San Diego State to withdraw from the planned partnership, I feel that this strong bid by San Diego will secure one of the slots in MLS. It is clear that Garber likes the idea of a club there, they have the full support of the mayor and local government, and they are not asking for public finances. Moreover, San Diego State needs a stadium to play football in other than the old, cavernous Qualcomm Stadium that the city wants to demo in order not to pay millions in maintenance. Consider the economic mixed use development plans and a new large park on the site by a river and just about all boxes are checked.

Regarding Saint Louis, it appears that the city government threw the ownership group a lifeline by approving $60M in public finances toward the planned stadium. So the ship has been rocked but it seems that the path to MLS has been steadied, at least for the immediate future.

If Sacramento is #25, St. Louis is #26, and San Diego is #27, then that leaves Cincinnati, San Antonio, Detroit, Nashville, and Tampa to battle it out for the very last spot. I have a soft place for Cincinnati, all apologies to the supporters of Nashville. I think those tremendous supporters of Cincinnati deserve it and I hope the ownership group develops a solid plan for them.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:16 pm to
Nashville please
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:20 pm to
jack, what is the support like for the Nashville USL club? Are they kicking off this year?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:57 pm to
Isn't St. Louis having trouble getting funding for a stadium? Would MLS award them an expansion team without concrete plans for a stadium?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:58 pm to
A team in Carolina or Nashville would be nice. Give ATL a rival.
Posted by TD_Hero
Member since Dec 2016
156 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:28 pm to
Wish NOLA could get one
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:41 pm to
Unfortunately NOLA won't get the stadium or the public support for a team, in my opinion. A team uptown would be amazing and I would be a season ticket holder from day one.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:43 pm to
quote:


If Sacramento is #25, St. Louis is #26, and San Diego is #27, then that leaves Cincinnati, San Antonio, Detroit, Nashville, and Tampa to battle it out for the very last spot. I have a soft place for Cincinnati, all apologies to the supporters of Nashville. I think those tremendous supporters of Cincinnati deserve it and I hope the ownership group develops a solid plan for them.


why don't we just have pro/rel and then these cities can earn their way in on merit and nobody is locked out forever once they decide to stop expanding.
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:50 pm to
Well, that is my long term hope. I understand why it can't happen now as MLS is still growing, as are the other leagues. My hope is that these clubs that don't make the 28 continue to develop and prosper. And I hope that the working relationship that MLS and USL have together will lend itself to the idea of a pro/rel system in the future.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8077 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:56 pm to
So I take it they're still holding a spot for Beckhams Miami team? What a waste, how many years has it been now?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

why don't we just have pro/rel and then these cities can earn their way in on merit and nobody is locked out forever once they decide to stop expanding.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:06 pm to
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I understand why it can't happen now as MLS is still growing


pure propaganda, it could easily happen now
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:33 pm to
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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:42 pm to
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but the outcome wouldn't be too good for MLS


Also incorrect
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Isn't St. Louis having trouble getting funding for a stadium


You have a few who are running for mayor,that are grandstanding.

But, they are getting a better deal for city the longer it goes.

It was St.Louis city gives 65? or $50mil. And after last meeting the team owners backed down to City only giving $35mil, and City gets $2.50 per ticket tax.

For once the Aldermen actually did their job. Putting more money on the Billionaires to foot most of stadium bill.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

what is the support like for the Nashville USL club? Are they kicking off this year?


Unfortunately they won't be kicking off until 2018, but people seem pretty interested. Everybody is a little bit bummed about Nashville FC still, but SC has taken the branding and colors and is causing some buzz.

All the soccer fans here seemed to be invested the last few years as far as I can tell (I've only been here about 9 months). I watch all of Chelsea's matches down in Printer's Alley at one of the pubs. Several other supporter groups are down there, and I've heard a good amount of people expressing excitement about the future.

The Predators carved out an amazing fan base in a pretty short amount of time considering hockey isn't exactly a Tennessee fixture. I imagine that Nashville SC will take off, as well. The fan page on Facebook already has 8,000 likes, I think.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27427 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

You have a few who are running for mayor,that are grandstanding.

But, they are getting a better deal for city the longer it goes.

It was St.Louis city gives 65? or $50mil. And after last meeting the team owners backed down to City only giving $35mil, and City gets $2.50 per ticket tax.

For once the Aldermen actually did their job. Putting more money on the Billionaires to foot most of stadium bill.



I think the actual for the City was around 58 million. The City leaders did their job for sure. It's a financially neutral position for the city with the ticket tax. Could actually be a net plus at the end. Good for them. I know a couple people working in and around this bid. They were prepared to move ahead without any public financing at all worst case. The league and the ownership group are committed to making this STL-MLS thing happen.

Will be good for the league and good for st louis. Im not sure the average person around the country realizes the love for soccer that exists in the St Louis area.

The last WQ qualifier the US played in St Louis drew 43,433 in a game vs St. Vincent and the Grenadines at Busch Stadium III.

Every U.S. team in World Cup history has included at least one St. Louisan on its roster.

This City will embrace and love its MLS team. It will and is a no brainer for the league as well as the City and metro area.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31081 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 6:59 am to
I am against promotion and relegation in the US. I also want MLS capped at 24 teams.
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