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L´Equipe´s 2012 ¨Ideal Eleven¨

Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:40 pm

Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:48 pm to
Pretty solid. I'd probably swap Ramos and Ramires for better players though.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:50 pm to
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Pretty solid. I'd probably swap Ramos and Ramires for better players though.


These two and Xavi are the three most dubious imo.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:52 pm to
Iker isn't even the starter at RM.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:54 pm to
Ramires is my only problem with this XI.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:55 pm to
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Ramires is my only problem with this XI.



He's very underrated IMO. It's not surprising that most people don't pay attention to how good he usually is.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:57 pm to
He's good, no doubt, but I don't think he's Best XI in the World good.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:58 pm to
Ramires is a wonderful player and the exact kind that every team needs (especially one with tons of other attack minded play makers because he will get back and do the dirty work) and maybe that's exactly why he was chosen but there are definitely other soccer players better than him.

For me Valencia is deadly out there on the right. Very underrated imo.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 7:59 pm to
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He's good, no doubt, but I don't think he's Best XI in the World good.



I don't know the background of this XI. I don't know if it is saying "best", because Ramires wouldn't belong then. But if it is tactics and other variables into consideration, he fits very well.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:01 pm to
He isn't. There are two players on Chelsea's squad I would put in that spot before him. Not to mention Valencia, Silva, Navas, Robben, Sanchez.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 8:03 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:02 pm to
True. This would be a good team on the field.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:03 pm to
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Robben


Unless it's the left foot XI, I don't think this guy belongs. It would be nice if Dandy provided a link describing how this team was selected.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:16 pm to
It's their best players of the year I'm fairly sure.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:19 pm to
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LOl Ramires hihihihihhihihihihhihihihihihi

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inieste a la place de Ramires et Ozil a la place d'iniesta










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Si le "Barça-Real" domine comme en 2011, le onze monde de notre journal a toutefois sensiblement changé d'une année sur l'autre. Seuls quatre joueurs y conservent leur place, à savoir les trois finalistes du Ballon d'Or FIFA 2012 - Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo et Iniesta - plus Xavi. A l'inverse, Casillas, Lahm, Sergio Ramos, Kompany, Jordi Alba, Xabi Alonso et Ramires ont détrôné Neuer, Daniel Alves, Vidic, Piqué, Marcelo, Busquets et David Silva. «Un monde qui bouge» : dans L'Equipe de jeudi, vous trouverez le détail des perfs du onze monde en 2012, les explications du choix de chaque joueur, un florilège de stats étonnantes, un rappel des trois précédentes équipes idéales de L'Equipe, ainsi que le détail du vote 2012 poste par poste.


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ALTHOUGH the "barça-real" dominates as in 2011, the WORLD ELEVEN of our newspaper has nevertheless noticeably changed FROM LAST year on the other. Only four players there MAINTAIN their place, SPECIFICALLY the three finalists of the BalÓN DÓR FIFA 2012 - Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Iniesta - PLUS Xavi. On the other hand, Casillas, Lahm, Sergio Ramos, Kompany, Jordi Alba, Xabi Alonso and Ramires deposed Neuer, Daniel Alves, Vidic, PIQUÉ, Marcelo, Busquets and David Silva. "A world that budges" (THIS IS WEIRD, CWILL TO THE RESCUE S'IL VOUS PLAIT): in L´Equipe of Thursday, you will find the detail of the PROFILES of the WORLD ELEVEN in 2012, the explanations AS TO the choice of every player, a florilège (FLORIPUNDIA, PLETHORA) of astonishing stats, a reminder of the three preceding ideal teams of L´Equipe, as well as A post by post detail of the 2012 vote.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 8:25 pm to
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He isn't. There are two players on Chelsea's squad I would put in that spot before him. Not to mention Valencia, Silva, Navas, Robben, Sanchez.



And Gervinho.


Don't forget Gervinho.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 9:13 pm to
If Barca-Real dominates like in 2011, our paper's World XI has noticeably changed from one year to the next. Only four players maintain their place, namely the three finalists for the Ballon d'Or 2012 - Messi, CRon, and Iniesta - plus Xavi. On the other hand, Casillas, Lahm, Ramos, Kompany, Alba, Alonso, and Ramires dethroned Neuer, Dani Alves, Vidic, Pique, Marcelo, Busquets, and David Silva.
"A world that moves" : in Thursday's "L'Equipe," you will find details on the performances of the 2012 World XI, explanations of the choices for each player, an anthology of surprising stats, a reminder of the three previous ideal teams from "L'Equipe," as well as details of the 2012 vote item by item.

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Si le "Barça-Real" domine comme en 2011, le onze monde de notre journal a toutefois sensiblement changé d'une année sur l'autre. Seuls quatre joueurs y conservent leur place, à savoir les trois finalistes du Ballon d'Or FIFA 2012 - Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo et Iniesta - plus Xavi. A l'inverse, Casillas, Lahm, Sergio Ramos, Kompany, Jordi Alba, Xabi Alonso et Ramires ont détrôné Neuer, Daniel Alves, Vidic, Piqué, Marcelo, Busquets et David Silva. «Un monde qui bouge» : dans L'Equipe de jeudi, vous trouverez le détail des perfs du onze monde en 2012, les explications du choix de chaque joueur, un florilège de stats étonnantes, un rappel des trois précédentes équipes idéales de L'Equipe, ainsi que le détail du vote 2012 poste par poste.



This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 9:15 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 9:25 pm to
See that amazing French-to-English translation, ladies? Make sure Cwil wins this Swagotelli Award.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:15 pm to
Outside of Ligue 1, do French viewers just watch Barca-Real and UCL?

For some reason, I feel like they threw in Lahm and definitely Ramires because of their UCL performances, and Kompany because of his co-EPL-winning header last year. I'm not arguing with Lahm or Kompany because they are at the top of their respective positions. Ramires was bizarre though.

And it's hard to knock Xabi Alonso, but I would have definitely considered Pirlo at CM over him for this particular year.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:47 pm to
Where is Pirlo?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/27/12 at 10:51 pm to
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Where is Pirlo?
in Turin, I believe.
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