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"How to Bayern in 11 Steps"

Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:22 pm
I'm a big fan of SB Nation's Bill Connelly for his excellent college football analytics work, but he went on a trip to Germany in the spring to do this piece on Bayern—their history, methods and why they're so dang good.

It's well worth your time, if you like soccer #longreads and don't know a whole lot about the Bundesliga but want to learn (like me).

LINK

Some highlights...

On how Beckenbauer ended up at Bayern:

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It’s a simple story, really: Boy grows up a fan of a big-city team nearby. Boy turns into a star youth player. Boy plays an Under-14 tournament game against his favorite club’s youth team. Boy gets into a scrap with an opposing player. They bump each other and play physically all game. Late in the match, the boy goes in a little late with a little hard tackle. The opposing player jumps up and slaps him in the face. Boy decides he’s going to play for the other team in town.

As Uli Hesse put it in Tor! The Story of German Football, nobody knows who the junior player was, “which is perhaps for the best, because his loss of self-control has had such far-reaching effects that the wrongdoer would certainly still be shunned by a great portion of the football world if we knew who he was.” But young Beckenbauer, long a fan of Munich’s working-class 1860 München squad, decided he couldn’t play for any club that allowed such thuggery. So he signed with Bayern in 1959 and convinced his friends to do the same.


On Klinsmann's tenure with Bayern:

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Here’s what failure looks like at Bayern: When Klinsmann was released from his contract late in the 2008-09 season, not quite to the end of his first season in charge, he had won 25 contests and lost 10 with a goal differential of plus-46. In league play, he had 16 wins to seven losses, and Bayern were just three points out of first place when he was sacked. Die Roten had outscored Sporting CP, 12-1, in the Champions League’s first knockout round before falling by a cumulative 5-1 to eventual champion Barcelona (coached by Pep Guardiola) in the quarterfinals. Granted, there was a semi-early loss in the DFB-Pokal (4-2 at Bayer Leverkusen in the quarterfinals), but these results actually aren’t too shabby. And really, results weren’t at the heart of his dismissal.

“If you think about Germany as a country — conservatism vs. progressivism in the culture and within the regions of the country — Bayern and Bavaria,” says Anderson, “it’s the South. It’s conservative. It was originally deeply Catholic. ‘We know what we’re doing, we do things a certain way, we don’t mess with it.’ And because it’s football, they’re probably even more conservative. They didn’t want to change too quickly. But they needed to change if they were going to keep pace with the other big European clubs.”


On Hamburg:

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Hamburger SV became a power in the late-1970s, winning three league titles and, beginning in 1979, finishing either first or second for six consecutive years. Between January 1982 and January 1983, they either won or tied 36 consecutive league matches, a record unbeaten streak that was finally topped by (guess who?) Bayern in 2013. In 1983, they beat Juventus, 1-0, to win the European Cup (now the Champions League).

But since finishing fifth in 1991, die Rothosen (the Red Shorts) have managed only six top-five finishes in 24 seasons and have finished 15th or worse in three of the last four.

“It’s politics,” Anderson says. “Hamburg is a great city, a wealthy city. They’ve got a beautiful stadium. But the people running the club are running against each other and working across purposes inside the club. And coming in there from the outside as a coach or GM or anyone else, it is very difficult to get anything done.”
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 1:40 pm to
First and foremost, Germans are a very pragmatic, logical people for the most part. There's a reason that Germans are considered some of the best engineers in the world. That's one of the reasons Jurgen wasn't considered very German. He's more into optimism, experimentation, and attitude, which is uncharacteristic for Germans. If I remember correctly, I believe I read an article before the World Cup that a few of his teammates called him the "American-German" or something like that. Germans are just increibly efficient to a crazy degree that some people see it as being cold as well. There's a reason some people billed the World Cup Final last year things like "Messi vs. The Machine".

Secondly, they're the most prestigious club in Germany. With as much of a powerhouse as Germany has been internationally and the quality of players they have produced consistently, the ability for a lot of these world class players to stay home and compete and win at the highest levels is easy, especially when it's at a club like Bayern. With the strict homegrown player rules the Bundesliga has, it encourages Bayern to use their prestige and basically buy the best talent with the perk that it's getting players who have played together (and succeeded) for quite some time internationally and will continue to do so.

Basically, they have the perfect set up. They easily buy almost any quality player who comes through Germany, which in essence weakens the competition, they strengthen both the National Team and their own team by having them playing together even during international breaks, and they have the wealth to buy world class players to fill the few gaps. When your squad is 60% of a World Cup winning German National Team, the chances of you being a powerhouse are pretty high.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 2:07 pm to
good stuff OP
Posted by drockw1
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/12/15 at 4:22 pm to
Great in-depth article...I knew a good bit of what was in there (Beckenbauer & 1860, Hamburg's current screwed up situation, club President Landauer having to emigrate to Switzerland) but didn't know a few things:

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On Saturdays at Allianz Arena, when Bayern is playing at the same time as others in the Bundesliga, a T-Mobile ding sounds anytime there’s a goal in the league. You look up at the scoreboard and find out who scored and where.


I should have known this, but this is just clever. Always hear it on the broadcasts and didn't recognize why.

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As Müller battled alcoholism, Bayern and Hoeness convinced Müller to go to rehab


Didn't know Gerd was an alcoholic after his career

This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 4:24 pm
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